The HW 57 was one of the air rifles I was considering. It seems like it would be easier to load than other under levers since the breech block pops up when you cock it. It looks about the same size as a HW 50. Are the internals the same?
Any Opinions On The HW 57?
- Thread starter Moog
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The 57, 50 and 99 share similar application main springs FYI...
Was considering buying one years ago BUT!...
https://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/19812-hw57-useless-or-is-it-me/
https://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/357448-hw57-wont-group/
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/weihrauchowners/hw57-problem-t23489.html
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=142247.0
Was considering buying one years ago BUT!...
https://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/19812-hw57-useless-or-is-it-me/
https://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/357448-hw57-wont-group/
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/weihrauchowners/hw57-problem-t23489.html
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=142247.0
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Yep, a mid power HW underlever cousin to the HW50S would be a great package. But IMHO there are too many reports of accuracy and reliability issues with the loading system to justify adding one to the collection.
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Pop up loading ports are fumbly.for me. I own several. (But not an HW57) Not my favorites. Gamo used them before they went to the superior rotating breech (RB2). RB2 is very good. They shared it on the BSA's.
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I was considering a HW 57 also at One time until I read the reviews at different places that were selling them from their customers. All the issues with the loading port problems and accuracy turned me off.
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I think I'll pass on the HW 57. Last Friday I already placed an order for another HW 95. I'll be posting about that one.
Thanks for the responses everybody.
Thanks for the responses everybody.
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Unlike most of the folks who bad mouth this rifle on the World Wide Web, I actually own one of these! And like most folks who actually own one, I love mine! It is just one of several rifles I own, including the HW95, which is like apples and oranges in comparison to the HW57.
I did some research on the World Wide Web before buying one, and noticed what I mentioned above, so I was able to discount the 'oh I heard' and 'oh I think this and that' from non-owners, so I bought mine. Glad I did. In my opinion, the only other rifle to compare it to is the HW50, other than the other tap-loaders from the past, with which I am unfamiliar.
OP, you missed your opportunity to own and shoot a fun rifle...unless you change your mind and buy one. I'd pay more attention to the actual owners before forming an opinion. Fortunately, I did that.
I did some research on the World Wide Web before buying one, and noticed what I mentioned above, so I was able to discount the 'oh I heard' and 'oh I think this and that' from non-owners, so I bought mine. Glad I did. In my opinion, the only other rifle to compare it to is the HW50, other than the other tap-loaders from the past, with which I am unfamiliar.
OP, you missed your opportunity to own and shoot a fun rifle...unless you change your mind and buy one. I'd pay more attention to the actual owners before forming an opinion. Fortunately, I did that.
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For the longest time I never paid much attention to the 57 since it is an underlever figuring it would be heavy like most underlevers but when i started looking around for a starter springer for a youngster I took another closer look at it an realized it is actually lighter than most and with the pop up breech load it looks like a great way to prevent fingers getting mangled with typical breakbarrels and underlevers and pretty simple to operate. It is comparable to a standard HW50S which is a nice power level springer and according to some reports may be a bit easier to cock than a 50 which is a bonus and it features the Rekord trigger which is always a plus. Thinking a MTC Connect might be a good match for this rifle as it should leave plenty of room to load the breech.(I realize the Connect is not indended for springers due to the short eye relief but my 50 doesnt realy recoil that much so I think it may be doable.)
Unfortunately they are not so easy to find these days and I am not sure if that is due to reduced production capacity due to covid or if they have fallen out of favor with dealers/distributors in the states or if Weihrauch is planning to remove it from the current cataglog. I think I may have found only 1 new rifle available in the states so far.
Unfortunately they are not so easy to find these days and I am not sure if that is due to reduced production capacity due to covid or if they have fallen out of favor with dealers/distributors in the states or if Weihrauch is planning to remove it from the current cataglog. I think I may have found only 1 new rifle available in the states so far.
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PA still lists it. But it ain't cheap. I suspect that its not popular because of all the bad mouthing by non-owners. Its okay...I have mine and I love it!
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I've looked at PA but have not been able to find as an available to purchase rifle.
The only other places that I think I have found is Baker Airguns and Topgun Airguns both of which are in the $500 range and not what I was hoping for. Oh well the search continues.
The only other places that I think I have found is Baker Airguns and Topgun Airguns both of which are in the $500 range and not what I was hoping for. Oh well the search continues.
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Some very interesting comments here!
Most underlever springers use a sliding-sleeve type breech system, which besides the fixed barrel has the advantage of direct loading into the bore. But since the sleeve of course must fit inside the receiver tube, the piston is surrounded by two layers of metal. So the trade-off is an action that is bulkier and heavier than would otherwise be required for the power (the original HW 77, for example, has a receiver tube of 35mm outside diameter, encasing a 25mm piston.)
So an advantage of the indirect loading HW 57 (and of the classic old tap-loaders) is that they combine a fixed barrel with a much lighter and slimmer "single layer" receiver tube, if that makes sense. This can make for a very sweet-handing rifle. Such things tends to be overlooked by many shooters In our power-mad market, but this puny old guy with scrawny hands appreciates it a lot!
Most underlever springers use a sliding-sleeve type breech system, which besides the fixed barrel has the advantage of direct loading into the bore. But since the sleeve of course must fit inside the receiver tube, the piston is surrounded by two layers of metal. So the trade-off is an action that is bulkier and heavier than would otherwise be required for the power (the original HW 77, for example, has a receiver tube of 35mm outside diameter, encasing a 25mm piston.)
So an advantage of the indirect loading HW 57 (and of the classic old tap-loaders) is that they combine a fixed barrel with a much lighter and slimmer "single layer" receiver tube, if that makes sense. This can make for a very sweet-handing rifle. Such things tends to be overlooked by many shooters In our power-mad market, but this puny old guy with scrawny hands appreciates it a lot!
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https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/spring-piston/weihrauch-hw57-air-rifle/
AOA has it under 4 bills at the moment.
AOA has it under 4 bills at the moment.
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I think your right about the possibility of the 57 being a sweet shooter but of course the weak spot being the popup breech can be problematic which it sounds like they were early on but the Weihrauch made some changes or adjustments but of course what I really like most is not getting fingers caught up in the breech should a youngster have a brief moment when they are not minding what they are doing in loading/cocking the rifle.
I had seen AOA's hw57 page but as you can tell they are out of stock which seems to be the case at many places, hopefully they plan to continue to sell them and they are just waiting on availability of new stock.
I wonder if at this power level the 57 would be a good candidate for a .20 option as it seems a .22 would be fairly loopy in its trajectory.
I had seen AOA's hw57 page but as you can tell they are out of stock which seems to be the case at many places, hopefully they plan to continue to sell them and they are just waiting on availability of new stock.
I wonder if at this power level the 57 would be a good candidate for a .20 option as it seems a .22 would be fairly loopy in its trajectory.
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Yes, but is it in stock. When I bought mine, the website showed it in stock, but when it hadn't shipped, I called them and discovered that they had none in stock. This situation happened again with AoA, so I have no confidence in their website any more. It's easy enough to update the site, so I'm not certain why they do things like this.
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I like my HW 57 very much. Great spring gun to get new shooters started on since they can cock the gun returning the cocking lever to its retention spot, then load the pellet and no worry about holding the cocking lever while loading.
Mine has the typical accuracy of any other HW, the record trigger that most every spring gun trigger is judged by.
I have more powerful springers, and a HW50 which the 57 shares the power plant with, so my 57 had been tuned down to 10m power level. I like it better than my HW30 or beean R7 as it shoots as well and is less fiddle.
I am ver glad I found it at a air gun show, I just hope the shows will resume soon
Hairsmith
Mine has the typical accuracy of any other HW, the record trigger that most every spring gun trigger is judged by.
I have more powerful springers, and a HW50 which the 57 shares the power plant with, so my 57 had been tuned down to 10m power level. I like it better than my HW30 or beean R7 as it shoots as well and is less fiddle.
I am ver glad I found it at a air gun show, I just hope the shows will resume soon
Hairsmith
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I'm glad to hear people have had good experiences with the HW 57 despite the issues mentioned. It seems like a nice little rifle.
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I think all the problems That they had with them were in the early production stages of the gun. Probably all corrected now.
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Fair point! I confess I did not check.
Take this for what little it's worth, as I've never even handled one of these guns: but Weihrauch introduced the HW 57 in the year 2000. The fact that it's still being manufactured and sold two decades later, makes ya think they must be doing SOMETHING right, and have sorted out the problems.
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