Any Hatsan Hercules Bully owners out there?

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    Bigragu
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    Anyone here with a Hercules bully that’s proving accurate? Can you please share group sizes on your targets? I don’t need pics, just say “1” groups at 50 yards”, as an example. 

    I recently sent mine back to hatsan, as it was shooting very poorly. Towards the end, there was a rattle noise coming from within the bottle, it seemed. Sounded like a rattle paint can. 

    Received the same rifle back, and according to hatsan, some plug in the valve within the bottle area came loose, which can lead to erratic velocities. I thought at first, ok, but my chronograph never showed erratic velocities. Hatsan said it’s been repaired, and the tech was shooting less than 1” groups at 50 yards. I requested the target sent to me, but that didn’t happen. 

    Finally shot it today, and although I finally got on paper, there is no consistency. Ended up with like a 6” group, all over like buckshot.

    I took the stock off to clean it and get ready to paint the stock, and I noticed that the design of that scope rail is awful, the railattaches to the bottle cover, and that cover is not part of the main stock. So, it’s(shroud) can be easily twisted.

     

    anyway, please share how it’s doing.

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    TheBarber
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    I’m having same issues with mine looks like a shotgun pattern at 50 yards,what caliber is yours mine is a 357. 

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    cootertwo
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    Not much help here. I zero'd mine (35 cal) at 20 yards, and popped a squirrel the other day, dead on the money. The scope rail does leave a lot to be desired. But besides the weight, I like my Bully, and my Bullmaster, AT44-10S, Bullboss (2), Sortie and ATP1

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    Funshine
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    I had a Bully, but it was too heavy for me and traded it for AT44-10s which I liked more. I was never able to shoot properly with the Bully. 

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    Bigragu
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    I’m having same issues with mine looks like a shotgun pattern at 50 yards,what caliber is yours mine is a 357. 

    I have a 30 cal. I’ve tried the famous JSB’s, the ones Hatsan was using, the vortex, and really no such groupings as my 25 cal Marauder. 

     

    Last night imstarted looking over different guns, on PA, AOA, and I focused on the rifles in the mid range, between $500 and $800, like my Bully. I also targeted the guns that most folks claim “ragged hole groupings”, or “dime sized groups”, and also targeted the 25 calls and up. What I’m seeing is the guns that shoot well, do not have a scope rail tied into a shroud band. Makes perfect sense to me! What was Hatsan thinking? I’ve only been into these PCP’s 10 months now, and at the time, looking at the Hatsan, I really liked the 30 cal, the velocities Hatsan puts out, and I thought a bull pup would suit me well. 

     

    Today i I told myself I probably cannot return it for a full exchange or refund, so I’m going to go on a mission to try and salvage this thing. I started by taking the stock and scope rail off. I prepped and painted the stock and bottle cover a flat dark earth, to match the FDE color on the Monstrum scope. When I reassemble, I’m going to find a way to lock in that bottle cover solid to minimize flex, by maybe using a thin layer of industrial two sided tape, to tape the bottle inside to the bottle cover. This should keep that cover from flexing, and flexing that scope rail attached to it. I also turned down the factory velocity via the hammer spring, by 12 whole turns. This should put me at around 870 FPS for around 16-20 shots on a full fill.

     

    Im gonna chalk this one for a live and learn. Not bagging on Hatsan guns, but I’m going to avoid any rifle from now on that has a scope rail that’s a part of the stock or stock parts. 

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    cootertwo

    Not much help here. I zero'd mine (35 cal) at 20 yards, and popped a squirrel the other day, dead on the money. The scope rail does leave a lot to be desired. But besides the weight, I like my Bully, and my Bullmaster, AT44-10S, Bullboss (2), Sortie and ATP1

     

    oh, wow, Cooter! What did that 35 do to that squirrel?  I see what a 25 does, I can only imagine what a 35 does, especially with Hatsan’s velocities

     

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    Imold
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    I’m happy with my Bully .30, zeroed in on paper at 50 yards, hits my 3” steel plate at 50 yards no problem and also my 4” steel plate at 75 yards and can hit my 6” steel at 100 yards using JSB 44.75s and the best thing I ever did was put the DonnyFL Emperor on it, I did lighten the trigger up which also made a big difference.

    BUT……..

    I did have a issue with my BT65SB Elite QE .25 when I got it, I couldn’t hit a barn at 25 yards, I tried 4 different scopes and finally called Hatsan and explained what was going on, they had me send it in and about 4 days later I got a email and what they found was my shroud was bent so they  fixed it and sent it back it now hits out to my 100 yard plate with no problem, I just wished it was a side lever rather then the bolt which can be a pain at times.

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    Video of me shooting 50 yards but it’s more about the DonnyFL Emperor. The video is in the 10th post on the tread.

    https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/hatsan-bully-30-with-the-donnyfl-emperor/

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    I have been considering a Bully in .45. Glad I was able to see your review on these. You tube has some Bully footage that shows pellet on pellet groups at 50 yards in .30 cal. I think I will wait until the gun has enough time to generate more in print about it. If the .45 cal. Bully turns out to be kind of a dog I will look elsewhere.

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    Bigragu
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    Painted my plastic stock parts, including the cheek riser that is not shown. When I put it back together tomorrow I have to figure a way to lock that scope rail down better than the factory had it. We shall see.

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    TheBarber
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    Bigragu,that’s looking cool can’t wait to see the finished product,I sent mine to AZ to see if he can find out why im having such accuracy issues. 

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    Bigragu,that’s looking cool can’t wait to see the finished product,I sent mine to AZ to see if he can find out why im having such accuracy issues. 

     

    Barber, Arizona meaning back to Hatsan?  If so, Ask for Shane. He is the only guy that I’ve spoken to with, thru emails and phone calls. I believe he also test fired the gun after repair. Now I’m wondering if he’s the only one there, multi tasking! LOL!

     

    im wondering if and when they test guns for accuracy after a repair on these Bully’s if they are using then open sights, or are they actually mounting a scope. 

     

    Today, before I put the stock back on, I’m going thru that barrel and get it spit shiny clean.

     

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    TheBarber
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    No I sent mine to Allen Zasadny out in Idaho he’s tuned many PCPs for me but if that don’t work I will be calling Shane thanks for the advice. 

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    Imold
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    Did you paint it with a rattle can or did you use a paint gun, just asking because it looks like it turned out real nice and I might do the same thing.

     

    Jim F.

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    Bigragu
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    All put together, barrel cleaned, hammer spring adjusted for lower velocity but higher shot count, scope turrets re centered, scope rail and misc screws of that type lock tightened down, moving parts all lubed. Tomorrow we shall see if the accuracy gets better.

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    TheBarber
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    Wow that looks Awsome keep us posted if accuracy improved 👍🏼

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    Bigragu
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    Wow that looks Awsome keep us posted if accuracy improved 👍🏼

    Thanks, Barber! I’ve never painted a stock before, so first time. I bought this brand paint called SEM, it’s made for automotive dash boards, hand rests, consoles, pretty mush anything plastic or vinyl on the inside of a car. According to the specs, it remains very flexible. Of course, prep is key. I used the SEM prep product, along with a wipe down of isopropyl alcohol to make sure all oils were gone.

     

    what I think would look even cooler is if I match up the DonnyFL moderator with it, but I’m still leery about trying to paint aluminum. 

    Speaking of that moderator, today, as part of putting this gun back together, I wrapped some more material around Donny’s material that wrapped inside, to try and further quiet this rapport down. These Hercules Bully’s are freaking loud without a moderator. I think my 25 cal Marauder, coupled with the Tim Hill moderator and his peek striker, has spoiled me. That Marauder pretty much just sounds like this when fired- PPPFFFFTTT!!!

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    Imold

    Did you paint it with a rattle can or did you use a paint gun, just asking because it looks like it turned out real nice and I might do the same thing.

    Imold, I mised this question of yours- yes, rattle can SEM brand paint. If you google SEM plastic paint finishes, there is a PDF that has all the specs, application instructions, compatibilities, etc. 

     

    i have ave a place in town called Warehouse Paints, and they have a rack of this brand paint with all colors and prep supplies, made for automotive. 

    If you do go with a flat dark earth theme, make sure and bring in whatever your trying to match, cause I learned almost the hard way. 

    I have a cheek riser from Magpul in FDE. So I went on to match that, and found a close match. I ended up with the accuracy problems I mentioned earlier, and thought it was the scope(cheap Bushnell trophy). I ordered the Monstrum one shown in FDE, and lo and behold, not the same as Magpul’s FDE. Had to take the scope in to try and match up. It’s pretty close, and depending on the light, yes you can see a difference. I’m not going to sweat the slight tone difference, after all, it is a gun, made to shoot and eliminate pests. Not some piece of furniture made to match curtains, lol.

    Jim F.

     

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    I’m tempted too do that same color on mine. But I have to get the accuracy figured out first. I spoke to my friend who is a Hatsan rep who I purchased it from he said it mite be a bad barrel but I’m sure AZ will figure that out. 

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    Here’s the steps I went thru, first with the Magpul cheek riser, which would have been the ivory color. Bought it, then returned it when the Monstrum scope came in, and settled for the Castella, as it came in at the closest match

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