Announcing the new FX Impact .35 Caliber

First, congratulations FX. 

I don't want to get voted off the island, but does anyone think that 150 foot pounds of muzzle energy is a good choice for deer sized animals? Would you really expect a deer shot in the shoulder, hind quarters, a non vital neck shot, guts, a glancing skull shot, or a quartering shot to the vitals to actually kill it? By killing it, I mean where you could retrieve it, not by eventual infection. Sorry to piss anyone off, but I take the privilege of hunting seriously. 

(Colorado fish and wildlife DNR recommends a minimum of 1000 foot pounds for white tail deer).


I already have three WTD with. 357.... Two with two lungs and heart (only walked 30 yards (not run) and died without getting to know what had happened.

The third one was a shot in the brain with head down... Switched off without giving a step.

Totally believe in what you said. Big calibers most hunters used for WTD are overkill. 120 foot pound energy is more than enough but not at 100 yards and more. Up to 70 yards and you are in business in my own opinion.

Not more than 40 yards away all of them.

From 40-50 yards you cannot miss the deer dead that is for sure.

Hunting big game with air rifle has the same difficulties than doing it with bow and arrow: need to be close, need to be quiet, need to be pacient, need to be accurate.

The main difference is that if you do things correctly you have considerably less chances of making an unfortunate shot... You can be much more accurate with the air rifle, for everyone benefit (including your wallet).

One thing that I really dislike about bow and arrow is the amount of blood that the animal perceives is loosing before expiring. The distance it runs feeling himself injured. I have been in Hunts in which we had to pursue a deer for miles and never found it.

Hunting with air rifle makes possible to avoid suffering with perfect shots at vitals with a lot of chances to get absolutely clean kills. Much more decent!! 
 
Curious to hear a serious explanation of "Harmonic Friendly"? How deep is the magazine and where exactly can this rifle be used to legally hunt Deer?

I've been on a pre-order list for quite a while and glad to see it finally moving along.

I have to agree with Crosman999. I do have concern over their max power of the JSB at 915fps and the "Harmonic Friendly" speed of 860fps.

I know what this meant with my CondorSS when I tried to get more power out of it. Does that mean that if you push this to max power you will get the crazy death spiral that you can only sight in at a fixed range.

Harmonics change based on pellet design/weight, plenum air pressure/fps and barrel length.

I assumed that when FX promised a 150fpe gun last year that they based that statement on a stable parabolic flight JSB pellet like it seems they had in the past.



Chad
 
First, congratulations FX. 

I don't want to get voted off the island, but does anyone think that 150 foot pounds of muzzle energy is a good choice for deer sized animals? Would you really expect a deer shot in the shoulder, hind quarters, a non vital neck shot, guts, a glancing skull shot, or a quartering shot to the vitals to actually kill it? By killing it, I mean where you could retrieve it, not by eventual infection. Sorry to piss anyone off, but I take the privilege of hunting seriously. 

(Colorado fish and wildlife DNR recommends a minimum of 1000 foot pounds for white tail deer).


I already have three WTD with. 357.... Two with two lungs and heart (only walked 30 yards (not run) and died without getting to know what had happened.

The third one was a shot in the brain with head down... Switched off without giving a step.

Totally believe in what you said. Big calibers most hunters used for WTD are overkill. 120 foot pound energy is more than enough but not at 100 yards and more. Up to 70 yards and you are in business in my own opinion.

Not more than 40 yards away all of them.

From 40-50 yards you cannot miss the deer dead that is for sure.

Hunting big game with air rifle has the same difficulties than doing it with bow and arrow: need to be close, need to be quiet, need to be pacient, need to be accurate.

The main difference is that if you do things correctly you have considerably less chances of making an unfortunate shot... You can be much more accurate with the air rifle, for everyone benefit (including your wallet).

One thing that I really dislike about bow and arrow is the amount of blood that the animal perceives is loosing before expiring. The distance it runs feeling himself injured. I have been in Hunts in which we had to pursue a deer for miles and never found it.

Hunting with air rifle makes possible to avoid suffering with perfect shots at vitals with a lot of chances to get absolutely clean kills. Much more decent!!

Just want to chime in here.... I will be getting the .357 Impact soon, but I want to make sure everyone is 100% what my stance is on this gun and any other 200 FPE and less gun is. Hunting Deer with airguns is much more like archery than firearms, but after committing 100% of my Deer hunting seasons to big bore airgun hunting for the last 4 years there is one conclusion I have come to... The double lung full passthrough shot is hands down the best shot to take. So that means with an airgun in this power range or ANY OTHER sub 200 FPE rifle, you are going to have to be VERY selective as to what shot you are going to take. 50 yards and closer, I might even say 30 yards and closer actually at 150 FPE. Totally broadside with ZERO and I mean NEVER any quartering shots. Vitals - lower double lung but back enough away from the shoulder and any of that muscle mass. Ideally you would want to place it right in between a few ribs, but that is getting really specific. Again - the goal is to pop those two breathing balloons (aka lungs).

I like to make the comparison of big bore airgun Deer hunting to archery in that there are long bow / recurve bow shooters are shooting projectiles in. the 40-55 FPE range. The advantage they have is the cutting radius to make sure both lungs are punctured. That is what dispatches the Deer, not blood loss usually. You are shutting down the respiratory system thus shutting off everything else. 

With compounds and crossbows you are doing the same, but you get a lot more foregiveness as far as range and shot angle, but at the end of the day you are wanting to take out those two air filled lungs and totally collapse them. Ideally you want to hit the lower lung and not the upper lung to give you the best chance of any kind of blood trail. A lower lung will allow the blood to flow out of the body cavity better than on the upper curvature of the Deer where the blood will often just fill inside the deer and not come out giving you ZERO blood trail. With an airgun because your entry and hopefully exit wounds will be so much smaller this shot placement is such a critical consideration especially in this lower end of the legal airgun hunting range.

So let's take this equivalent to the airguns world. When I got into this, I was convinced (wrongly) that maximum expansion of a slug and "dumping" all that energy into the Deer was the goal. Nope. I have now taken over 10 deer in the last few years and you want a full pass through or at least through both lungs above ALL things. If you can shoot an airgun that can give you both expansion AND penetration great, but if you can only have one of those - you NEED penetration. The 65 grain FX slugs will NOT be your go to ammo for Deer hunting. That pill is designed to flatten out like a pancake at impact and you might get 6-8 inches of penetration with this gun. You want 12+ inches of penetration and that will only be accomplished with a solid projectile and hopefully can take something larger that 81 grain pellets. I am still getting info about this platform to see if it will be able to take 100+ grain solids, because that would be the ONLY projectile I would consider using with with an airgun in this 150-200 FPE range.

So let's talk about where this gun will shine. Basically it will be rockstar on ANYTHING and EVERYTHING smaller than a White Tail Deer and MAYBE - JUST MAYBE a White Tail Deer in VERY specific shot situations. Video coming soon about this topic from UpNorthAirGunner... 
 
I have seen deer taken with a 25cal. 25gr pellet 900fps 50 meters side shot to the heart the deer looked like it was stung by a bee then staggered like it was drunk and fell over dead. Two other deer were there, heard the noise, looked around still clueless they were being shot at. I have no doubt the right shot placement with a 150 fpe its more than adequate. 
 
WV law is very vague and anytime you try to talk to the DNR about it they try to use powder burner laws. When you point out where they can't do that the huff off to go pout.



I had one tell me that I could not shot a coyote with an air rifle after dark if I used anything later than a 22. I asked him what charge would he charge me with if I killed it using a slingshot and a 9mm ball bearing? I was quite serious because an air rifle and slingshot are a closer comparison than a powder burner and an air rifle. He couldn't answer other than. You can't do it. I told him that I would call him when I go shooting coyotes again and he can arrest me but he better be sure of what he is going to charge me with.
 
WV law is very vague and anytime you try to talk to the DNR about it they try to use powder burner laws. When you point out where they can't do that the huff off to go pout.



I had one tell me that I could not shot a coyote with an air rifle after dark if I used anything later than a 22. I asked him what charge would he charge me with if I killed it using a slingshot and a 9mm ball bearing? I was quite serious because an air rifle and slingshot are a closer comparison than a powder burner and an air rifle. He couldn't answer other than. You can't do it. I told him that I would call him when I go shooting coyotes again and he can arrest me but he better be sure of what he is going to charge me with.

Here in Canada they just don’t know what are PCP.

When time come to register our airguns they dont know what to do. LOL

And when i try to explained them that my FX Impact can shoot .22, 25, 30 and .357 caliber.....Oh boy oh boy....they sounds so stupid on the phone that i have spend 2 hours waiting for a government employe to understand what i was talking about,,,,no news from them since then.

We are so retarded here in Canada in airguns you have no idea.
 
Texas says 220fpe for several species.

AF Texan 308 is top gun in the state currently.


First, congratulations FX. 

I don't want to get voted off the island, but does anyone think that 150 foot pounds of muzzle energy is a good choice for deer sized animals? Would you really expect a deer shot in the shoulder, hind quartenonvital vital neck shot, guts, a glancing skull sho or a quartering shot to the vitals to actually kill it? By killing it, I mean where you could retrieve it, not by eventual infection. Sorry to piss anyone off, but I take the privilege of hunting seriously. 

(Colorado fish and wildlife DNR recommends a minimum of 1000 foot poundwhitetaile tail deer).



 
WV law is very vague and anytime you try to talk to the DNR about it they try to use powder burner laws. When you point out where they can't do that the huff off to go pout.



I had one tell me that I could not shot a coyote with an air rifle after dark if I used anything later than a 22. I asked him what charge would he charge me with if I killed it using a slingshot and a 9mm ball bearing? I was quite serious because an air rifle and slingshot are a closer comparison than a powder burner and an air rifle. He couldn't answer other than. You can't do it. I told him that I would call him when I go shooting coyotes again and he can arrest me but he better be sure of what he is going to charge me with.

Here in Canada they just don’t know what are PCP.

When time come to register our airguns they dont know what to do. LOL

And when i try to explained them that my FX Impact can shoot .22, 25, 30 and .357 caliber.....Oh boy oh boy....they sounds so stupid on the phone that i have spend 2 hours waiting for a government employe to understand what i was talking about,,,,no news from them since then.

We are so retarded here in Canada in airguns you have no idea.

8 years ago I went hunting bears and moose to Canada. I took my Marauder in 25 Cal for shooting in the camp. I registered it to be able to get into Canada as a firearm. 
 
WV law is very vague and anytime you try to talk to the DNR about it they try to use powder burner laws. When you point out where they can't do that the huff off to go pout.



I had one tell me that I could not shot a coyote with an air rifle after dark if I used anything later than a 22. I asked him what charge would he charge me with if I killed it using a slingshot and a 9mm ball bearing? I was quite serious because an air rifle and slingshot are a closer comparison than a powder burner and an air rifle. He couldn't answer other than. You can't do it. I told him that I would call him when I go shooting coyotes again and he can arrest me but he better be sure of what he is going to charge me with.

Here in Canada they just don’t know what are PCP.

When time come to register our airguns they dont know what to do. LOL

And when i try to explained them that my FX Impact can shoot .22, 25, 30 and .357 caliber.....Oh boy oh boy....they sounds so stupid on the phone that i have spend 2 hours waiting for a government employe to understand what i was talking about,,,,no news from them since then.

We are so retarded here in Canada in airguns you have no idea.

8 years ago I went hunting bears and moose to Canada. I took my Marauder in 25 Cal for shooting in the camp. I registered it to be able to get into Canada as a firearm.

Yep
 
Here in Michigan in my hunters digest it states that airguns for the sake of hunting are considered a firearm. They can be used to take game as long as it conforms to all caliber and power requirements for the species being taken. So even though it is not federally a firearm some states have put that into law. So technically when a wildlife officer is telling you that you can’t use a certain caliber at night he might be right. Especially if your states laws are similar to ours. Michigan has a night time caliber restriction of .269. Better safe than fined and arrested. I know it has nothing to do with the .35 impact. But it’s kinda the way the conversation went. Which I would totally buy one! Would just have to be the exact right situation to take a deer with it. Like UpNorthAG stated. Happy shooting. 
 
Here in Michigan in my hunters digest it states that airguns for the sake of hunting are considered a firearm. They can be used to take game as long as it conforms to all caliber and power requirements for the species being taken. So even though it is not federally a firearm some states have put that into law. So technically when a wildlife officer is telling you that you can’t use a certain caliber at night he might be right. Especially if your states laws are similar to ours. Michigan has a night time caliber restriction of .269. Better safe than fined and arrested. I know it has nothing to do with the .35 impact. But it’s kinda the way the conversation went. Which I would totally buy one! Would just have to be the exact right situation to take a deer with it. Like UpNorthAG stated. Happy shooting.

The caliber restriction at night is specified for firearms and WV does not have any Airguns laws. Only a couple of states have amended their laws.
 
Here in Michigan in my hunters digest it states that airguns for the sake of hunting are considered a firearm. They can be used to take game as long as it conforms to all caliber and power requirements for the species being taken. So even though it is not federally a firearm some states have put that into law. So technically when a wildlife officer is telling you that you can’t use a certain caliber at night he might be right. Especially if your states laws are similar to ours. Michigan has a night time caliber restriction of .269. Better safe than fined and arrested. I know it has nothing to do with the .35 impact. But it’s kinda the way the conversation went. Which I would totally buy one! Would just have to be the exact right situation to take a deer with it. Like UpNorthAG stated. Happy shooting.

The caliber restriction at night is specified for firearms and WV does not have any Airguns laws. Only a couple of states have amended their laws.

I wasn’t sure how many states had added that to law. Guess you guys are still lucky. Lol.