Altaros Booster/Compressor - Review Ongoing

STO

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The short version: I got THIS, it works so far, it isn't bad speed-wise, and it cost 695$ plus shipping and it didn't require me to purchase any additional fittings (although I did anyway). I will continue to update this review, hopefully for years, as I use this booster and have more insights on it. 



Why I chose this unit

First and foremost I wanted extreme reliability. Airguns are my hobby, and I spend all day every day problem solving typically on complex mechanical systems. I'm completely capable of ripping apart and rebuilding any compressor out there, it doesn't scare me, however when I arrive at my precious and scarce hobby-time, the last thing in the world I want to be doing is fighting with yet another mechanical device which needs to be repaired or rebuilt. So extreme reliability, and a minimal parts count are pretty high on my wants-list. Please understand I don't mean to besmirch the reputations of Omega or Coltri/Daystate, however both have reports of failures and if you go on the dive forums the general consensus is that you just have to rebuild compressors and it is part of life. They are both also EXACTLY the type of greasy tightly packaged complex mess I didn't want to sink my teeth into when rebuild time arrives. The obvious answer might then be the Shoebox, as it is compact, inexpensive, and simple, however it seems the SB is in constant need of being oiled and rebuilt. Not a calamity for sure, but annoying which puts it further down my desirability list. 

This survey was invaluable to me in assessing options, designs, run hours, etc. 
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/compressor-survey-results/

Second I wanted the price to be "reasonable." We all have our own definitions of this, and a year ago I'd have said that even the price of this was too high, but I've been slowly worn down by a string of failures on other compressors. Somehow spending 1500-2000$ just didn't seem appealing. 

Third I didn't mind if it needed a shop compressor, however I'd like it to run off a good reliable oiled shop compressor. I own both oiled and oilless compressors, however anyone who has run an oil-less compressor in a commercial environment knows that they're disposable. Basically you buy them because they're a cheap wobble-piston thrill to get air to somewhere that you don't want to haul or run line for a real compressor. And this is my other little strike against the SB. I'm not super worried that a filter setup couldn't extract the oil, I'm sure it could, but in general I'm one of those idiots who listens to manufacturers. So if the SB says no oiled compressor, fine, but that makes it that much less desirable as now I'll have to put hours on one of my disposable little pancakes. Meanwhile I've got a couple bigger oiled units kicking around, and will happily buy an even bigger one as I need more go-juice to run air tools anyway. My oiled compressors so far have all been utterly reliable, and were cheap to boot so...... 

Side note here, all shop compressor ratings are bogus. Here is why: 



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfjSm_ieRkE 









So I arrived at the Altaros, as it uses an oiled compressor as a power source, has a minimum of moving parts, and by absolutely every account is utterly reliable. It is what I decided to roll the dice on anyway. I should note that the two complaints about the Altaros I hear over and over again are that it is slow and that it simply transfers the wear from a high pressure compressor to a low pressure compressor. As far as speed, by the numbers the Altaros is as fast or as slow as the compressor you attach it to. That said, by those numbers, none of them are fast. So if you're looking for a fill-while-you-wait solution, this isn't going to be it. The flip side of that coin though is that it is quiet, so easy to have it quietly hissing back and forth next to you while you do something else. (it is quieter than my Nomad II, even before the Nomad developed a hammering issue) The other complaint is that it "just transfers wear from the Altaros to your shop compressor. This is half-true. Here is the thing: low pressure oiled shop compressors are incredibly cheap, reliable, and long-lived. It really is actually quite remarkable to me just how inexpensive and reliable they are. So while something is still accruing run hours and wear for sure, it is a tool I have and use anyway, it is mechanically quite simple, it has a proven track record of reliability, and they are dirt cheap. In short, I'm not worried. 



Purchasing/setup

So it is unclear from the website how exactly to purchase an Altaros booster, but long story short they send you an email, you confirm the details to them, and then they send you an invoice. I'll pull this quote right out of an email they sent me:



Most info which you want to know can be found on this web:
http://altaros-compressor.com/main-page/how-to-order/

What is main difference:
http://altaros-compressor.com/main-page/parameters/

Price and shipping:
http://altaros-compressor.com/price/



Total price for the "advanced" unit was 815$, plus a couple fittings I bought (turns out I didn't need) and the booster was here in a week. Everything was neatly packaged in what looks like a good quality upholstery foam. It also came with an American standard QD that connects to the air fittings everyone uses. I didn't use it though because, despite having an initial water separator and dessicant pack, I wanted a redundant dessicant pack and water separator so I just wouldn't have to worry about it. Thus I picked up ONE OF THESE. I should note at this point that there were various reports on the input thread of this compressor. I picked up THIS ADAPTER because that is what it claimed to be. The adapter fit, but so did 1/4NPT so I just put a little teflon tape on an NPT thread and put the adapter in my fittings box. 



How does it work

Simple version is that this has no motor whatsoever, all the power comes form your air compressor itself. It uses some of the air and a compound piston system to compressor the other portion of the air. It comes with an inbuilt water trap and dessicant filter, it has an automatic stop, and an input pressure gauge. The power cable is only to run the brainbox and the solenoid which shunt the low power air around and run the thing. This



https://youtu.be/fVcZmZXEFhY



shows how it all works. The whole thing is actually a pretty slick piece of kit and elegant engineering in my opinion. Also, credit to them, in their gallery they show cutaways of the whole thing





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In the pictures above, on the right hand side, you can see the additional filtration I put on the unit. Again, I want things to just F******* work, so adding a department of redundancy department to the air input seemed like a good plan. 



So having run it a bit, how does it perform? Well I decided to try running it on this little 2HP unit first. It is rated for 4.5cfm@90psi although that doesn't actually mean anything as the above video demonstrates. That said, on this little compressor, it seems to be about as fast a fill as my Nomad II. A top-off of a bottle airgun takes a couple minutes with the compressor running absolutely flat out. To be clear my impressions are definitely what you'd call initial, however they are also very positive. The unit works well, is quiet, and has a bunch of nice little features. I love the input side gauge, so you know what your actual pressure is at the machine. I love listening to it hiss and slide back and forth. I love the fact that it runs quite cool, so you don't see the big drop in tank pressure like you have with some other units. While some people complain about speed, for my uses I don't have any great need or desire for it to run faster. If I did, I could easily run it off either a bigger compressor or simply multiple smaller ones. After all my 2hp compressor is only about 100$ new, and I've seen these units run hard for years without issue. 

So for now that is all I've got. I do want to be super clear about two things:
1) I'm quite early in my testing/use of this unit, so I'll continue to update this thread, but please keep in mind that all observations here are "preliminary" at best. 

2) I'm not yet prepared to recommend this unit to anyone. I simply don't have enough hours on it to say conclusively whether it is good, bad, or meh. 



If anyone has any questions, please don't hesitate to ask and I'll do my best to answer them. :) 





*update 7/6/19*
Unit is still running well. On my Crown's 480cc bottle it takes about 10 minutes to go from 150-250 bar (a full fill) running on a Harbor Freight 2HP oiled compressor running intermittently (about 80/20). There is a key to getting the most out of this unit I've found, and that is increasing your input pressure and reducing the cycle rate using the flow restrictor on the Altaros. Why? Because it dramatically increases the amount of air going into the low pressure pump side, thus making it pressurize more air with every stroke. Meanwhile the air in the central actuator will, by virtue of the design, automatically drop down to whatever the minimum needed to cycle the machine is. So, put all together, I get faster fill times with higher input pressures, and I control the rate using the Altaros' flow restrictor made for exactly this purpose. I should also add that, now having tweaked and timed it, the unit is very comparable in output to the Air Venturi Nomad II, however the air it outputs is substantially cooler so there is a lot less "post-fill-drop;" it basically stays at its as-charged pressure, whereas with the Nomad I'd see maybe a 5 bar drop and with a Rong Heng I'd see maybe a 10-15 bar drop. 

*update 12/3/19*
Unit is still running well. Charged two crowns and an AAA Slayer in one straight go on a single compressor. The compressor was toasty by the end, but unharmed. For really really long runs/big tanks, pairing up two compressors or turning the flow restrictor down even further would definitely be the way to go. I've also had to change the pre-filter's desiccant, however the unit's in-built desiccant filter looks unchanged, so clearly the pre-filter is working well. 
 
I have to say that the metal enclosure looks far better than the plastic tool box although the boosters are the same the "tool box" is crowded and not laid out as well. When I first got mine I did a 12 hour run with it (large cylinder). My oiled compressor had inadequate (none) water removal and with the long run it flooded the booster. Every exhaust pulse would spray water. Luckily I was just doing a bottle to bottle boost so the water laden air was not in the high pressure circuit.
 
I have to say that the metal enclosure looks far better than the plastic tool box although the boosters are the same the "tool box" is crowded and not laid out as well.

Yeah there are a couple other minor perks to the "advanced" version as well, but they are mechanically identical mostly. 

Here is the thing, my thing, about the converted toolbox vs. this metal enclosure: I can totally see why, as a small company, having probably a third party manufacture and powder coat a custom metal box in a small production run which you'll then have to inventory is going to drive the price up. And, again from Altaros' standpoint, I can see why they'd simply say "well it is the same device, and the toolbox works the same, why would anyone care or be willing to pay the increased price?" Flip side of that coin though is that putting your booster in an plastic toolbox doesn't inspire the same level of confidence or convey quality the same way a bespoke housing does. It is just the kind of vain creatures we are I guess. :p *shrug* I obviously opted for the "advanced" box. ;) 

I would have loved it if the darn thing had come with feet though. I'll have to buy some feet to put on it, because putting that metal directly on the shop floor rubs me wrong somehow. 
 
My altaros booster is running since 2 years now. I mainly top off my 7l bottle from 240b to 300b once a week and I have nothing to complain.

I simply have to replace some seals mostly on the high presure side and that is all.

I do not regret this invest which perectly feets my needs. Also the aftersale service from ALTAROS is very nice (quick reply and fast shipment). I ordered the plastic box version and I asked for the new features of the latest version as an upgrade (high pressure gauge + transparent silicagel housing).




 
My experience is similar to that of dreuf. The improvements are positive and address some criticism of the earlier versions of which mine is one. I too had to replace the seals on the high-pressure piston after about six months and relatively light use. Apart from the high appetite for input air, the other drawback is the long fill time. In my case, after leaving the room to let it do its thing, I've returned to find that an O-ring on one of the connections has failed and I've lost a whole bottle of air. This happened twice. I fixed that issue by adding a check valve to the bottle. One other time I returned to find smoke pouring out on my 2.5 HP drive compressor. For the price I paid for a new home compressor, I could have bought a Yong Heng. Altaros is a good company and they provide excellent support but for my needs, the little Y H has been a lot more user-friendly and hassle-free for me. In my case, the shipping on the Altaros took seven weeks. The shipping on the YH took less than a week.
 
I have buy the toolbox version.

It works very fine ,i have a yong heng but the altaros is a longlife solution.

It fills my 7 liter bottles with a speed of 15 to 17 bars in hour becouse my shopcompressor is slow.

Runtime was 60/40 run /stop

The speed is for me not important it can run the hole day or night.

I have put a waterseperator in the line and blow the water normaly ervery 4 hours out of it.

The silica media stays more than 10h dry in the altaros first filter.

My have around 50 or 60 hours runtime on it.

Only issue was that the bright hose between first and second stage in the compressor was ripped.

I contact Altaros and they respond me quick,in my case a srew that fix that hose is a bit to thight and i must loose it for a 1/8 turn

and they send me a replacement hose.

Altaros have a greath costumer service with quick reaction time.

Im happy with this solution for filling my tanks .

The yong heng i use now just to quickfill a gun if my bottles are total empty in the start of my airgun season

It dont produce any heat and if the pressure in bottle drops than this think recharge it a bit.
 
Before I went for my Carette compressor I was ready to go with Altaros. My problem was I couldn’t find a shop compressor that had an output great enough where it wouldn’t have to running consistently.

So I'm currently testing it on one of these bad boys, as it is a cheap and readily available compressor:
https://www.harborfreight.com/8-gal-2-hp-125-psi-oil-lube-air-compressor-68740.html

There is a little flow adjuster inside the Altaros which you can turn up and down to change the cycle rate. Using this, I was able to pretty easily set the Altaros so that it consumed air slowly enough the compressor would cycle on and off at a reasonable duty cycle. I went with 70/30 (that is to say, out of ten minutes, it'd average 7 minutes on and 3 minutes off) for this test. First I ran the compressor flat out for about 15 minutes, and then sent the Altaros to run the compressor 70/30 duty cycle until the two tanks I was filling were finished. I took readings of the compressor head temp throughout, and at the very end. At no point did it reach 200F, although running flat out it got close (190+F). *shrug* The Altaros stayed cool as a cucumber the entire time. 



I will say though that, if you back it off so that you're not running your compressor continuously, it does fill quite slowly. Fast fills will require either a bigger compressor, or simply two of these cheap little 2hp compressors.
 
wow I just got an altaros booster Too I'll be starting a similar thread to yours as soon as my tank a gun show up I've had the booster for a month now just sitting at my shop I get more excited about compressors than air guns probably because I'm a lot more familiar with air and nitrogen production been in the trade since I was 17 I ve got all the latest and greatest compressors and nitrogen generators at my shop soon as i get a bottle or gun in we'll see what the altaros can do at max settings. 
 
Quick update: still loving the Altaros. The customer support from Altaros is also thus far fantastic. 

What I wanted to update though is my little mod to it. Obviously maximizing input pressure and using the speed adjuster inside the booster decreases fill time better than turning down your reg. Thing is, for more speed, two little 2.5hp compressors is a lot more airflow and cheaper than a bigger single compressor. So I wanted the option of two input compressors or one. This way if I was in no hurry or if I were traveling I could run one compressor at moderate duty cycle, if I had a big tank I could run two compressors at say 30% duty cycle basically forever without even thinking about it, or if I am in a hurry I can crank the speed and run 100% duty cycle on both and fill relatively fast. 

Thus two check valves, two QDs, and one T splitter later and I have this:

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Works great. Of note I could easily add another T splitter and have three compressors on here, although that might be getting ridiculous. As it stands one Altaros, two compressors, and all this extra plumbing brings the grand total to about 1.1k. This seems like a pretty reasonable solution assuming the booster continues to be reliable. I'm happy. :)
 
Darn you STO!!! Now I have to add the Altaros booster to my calculus for an air compressor solution! 😲

Seriously though, thank you for the very thorough write up, including all of the reasoning, etc.. As I already have a 175psi shop compressor (Sears oil-less), I'm probably half-way there to start with. Did you (or has anyone else) tried to fill a PCP air cylinder directly on the rifle from the Altaros booster? Would there be any problems with this? I don't/can't drop the cash for a CF supply bottle to fill with such a set up initially, but would save my pennies to buy one if I could get by with the Altaros as a direct fill option until I have the funding.

Thanks!
 
Do i need for every compressor one check valve?


No. So technically, if you set your non-checked-compressor-reg slightly higher, you need one fewer check valve than compressors. It makes the setup a little more specific/picky, but it is perfectly doable. Given how cheap they are in the US though, I just didn't bother, and used two:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007GDXA60/



Darn you STO!!! Now I have to add the Altaros booster to my calculus for an air compressor solution! 😲

Seriously though, thank you for the very thorough write up, including all of the reasoning, etc.. As I already have a 175psi shop compressor (Sears oil-less), I'm probably half-way there to start with. Did you (or has anyone else) tried to fill a PCP air cylinder directly on the rifle from the Altaros booster? Would there be any problems with this? I don't/can't drop the cash for a CF supply bottle to fill with such a set up initially, but would save my pennies to buy one if I could get by with the Altaros as a direct fill option until I have the funding.

Thanks!

Ha! Glad I could help. :) 

So your oilless compressor is a start, but please be aware/keep in mind that oilless compressors are essentially considered "disposable." This is because they tend to use a PTFE blended with some secret sauce of abrasion resistant compounds as their gasket, and when it wears out a rebuild kit usually is half the cost of a whole new compressor. 

Yup, I fill my rifles directly from the booster. Works great, as dreuf noted. I got the advanced version of the booster, and it has all the features including a very nice shutoff gauge/system. FWIW I don't actually run any other CF tanks or anything like that. I run exclusively direct-fill. The guns fill relatively quickly, and almost all my friends are also tool-users so there is an air compressor pretty much wherever I go. As a result, I haven't need a more portable air system yet, certainly not for what bottle prices currently are. 

I hope that helps mate! 
 
STO the pump you have is based off of a Haskel booster pump. I use a lottttt of air 3500 and 4500 psi fills at a time on big bores. needless to say 45 min bottle few fills and you can't fill to 4500 psi any more. A few people have taken this type of pump and are using it to take one tank all the way down to about 1200 psi from your tank and boosting it to 4500. See Mr Hollowpoint youtube on booster pump. I have done a bunch of homework on this type of pump and what I can tell you is this. They are very durable and if you have a little mechanical capability they are very repairable. I think you will find you will not have much problems with it. James
 
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Seems our is 3+ years old now, using a $99.00 compressor (lowes or??) and never an issue. Love the fact that if they come out with any improvement they contact old customers.

DO watch for their new bolt action rifle. No idea of hours really dont shoot much and all time fill record on this unit would be 3 45min tanks in a month and normally less. It lives in a shop remote from the house and so far the auto-shut off has been flawless, just do adjust whatever comp with the regulator screw.

Their how to fill bottle to bottle vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPdImL-cEUY

and just every possible video of there booster one could ever wish to see



https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl6uI46VtCFP5EkL94O_iKQ/videos



John