Alkin Compressor Hose and Connector Mods

In a recent thread several Alkin W31 owners discussed how much they like this compressor. The only issue is that some feel the factory hose is heavy and the bleed lever can be confusing to operate

The problem is that the owner's manual is unclear regarding terminology and correct order of opening and closing valves and the bleed lever. The fittings on the factory hose are designed primarily for shops that fill multiple dive tanks at one session. Most of us have used bleed screws which depressurizes an entire hose. The bleed lever is confusing until the operator understands that it is purposely designed for multiple tank fills. There is a procedure to bleed pressure from the hose above the lever assembly but it requires knowledge of how the lever operates. This is not explained in the owners manual.

The Alkin home office is very receptive to owner feedback. I called them last week and they sent me an adapter that replaces the 1.75 pound gauge and air bleed lever assembly from the factory fill hose. Most, but not all tanks have valves with gauges and air bleeds. Here is a picture of my Alkin fill hose before and after it was modified to remove parts I don't need since they are also on the tank valve.

I modified my Alkin by adding a Tee connector and 6000 psi gauge to the PMV. The factory hose attached to the PMV via a male 1/4 NPT threaded adapter. I bought a Tee connector with a male thread 1/4 NPT connection to the PMV. It is mounted vertically with 1/4 NPT female thread on each output side. There is a 2.5" 6000 psi pressure gauge on top of the Tee, and the option of using a 1/4 NPT to 1/8 NPT reduction fitting to a Male Foster, or the factory hose can be threaded on the bottom of the Tee.

The photos below show the compressor in both Foster connector or factory hose configurations. The advantage of the male Foster is that any tank hose with a quick connect can snap on directly to the compressor for a fill. The advantage of the factory hose is that the DIN 300 connection is more secure than a Foster. With either connector I now look up at the compressor gauge to see fill pressure and now have a much lighter hose assembly. The compressor gauge and tank gauge both show the same pressure so both are calibrated correctly.

The Tee connector is $10.50 delivered on Ebay and the pressure gauge is $13.68 delivered on Amazon.

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I talked to Ayden today and they shipped my “stuff” today. I’m assuming that my set up will be like what you are showing in the last picture.


From previous experience. Getting from A to C or D is not difficult if you know what is required as far as fittings. If you don’t know trying to wing it alone is nearly impossible. Can you imagine standing in Lowe’s and looking lost and the plumbing expert asks if he can help. First thing that happens is he asks you what you are working on. Tell him and watch his eyes glaze over.


I know nothing about plumbing but it’s 


So thanks for posting .
 
This is said as friendly joking, ribbing, and not intended to insult:

Those are some nice cosmetic wrench marks on those five fittings to neck down to Foster fittings. Maybe the person who spun it on was an amateur watch maker trying to turn the front face into a clock with the chatter marks :) :p

Edit: Does your Alkin still knock on start up?
 
That one large piece is marked up pretty badly. I don’t see much else . I noticed that and figured that it was held in a vise and clamped pretty hard. I’m as anal as the next guy and actually considered cleaning that up but decided I needed to show some self control over my impulses . I’m reasonably confident that at my advanced age I will in short order forget that those defects exist .
And yes the compressor rattles at one spot . It would be interesting to know why but again since Alkin says it’s of no worry I’ve decided not to loose any heart muscle over it. This attitude can be assumed to be either a sign of maturity or not giving a poop. Each of you can make the call😀😀😀
 
This is said as friendly joking, ribbing, and not intended to insult:

Those are some nice cosmetic wrench marks on those five fittings to neck down to Foster fittings. Maybe the person who spun it on was an amateur watch maker trying to turn the front face into a clock with the chatter marks :) :p

Edit: Does your Alkin still knock on start up?

Alkins and Bauers always rattle for a few seconds at start up. My Bauer Utilus did. The Alkin W32 does. It's not a knock caused by a defect. It is a normal sound of pressure building up. It's not an indicator of any problem. It lasts about a couple of seconds. It's a red herring to think it's anything but normal. I'm sure someone who is concerned can look up the mechanical explanation of what causes this sound at startup. 


 
I watched JamesD's videos on it with extreme interest and the conversation about cam angles and such. I'm inclined to agree with pressure build-up, I figured it was always valve knock which like you state is by design; got to build pressure and knock valves before you have pressure induced valve closure. :)

My LC-110 has always knocked before pressure shut-off on the pressure shut-off switch. It knocks in conjunction with pressure build-up and relief and gas laws. Like you said, sounds normal and part of how a mechnical machine functions.
 
... I’m using the drain valves and the pressure relief on the tank to disconnect after filling.

When you have a PMV, the drain valves have no affect on the disconnect. A bleed valve that is down stream from the PMV is a requirement. i.e. - a bleed valve on the tank or fill whip.

You want to make sure that you don't use your setup to fill a tank without a bleed valve. You would not be able to disconnect it once pressurized.

You could make a quick disconnect bleed valve or add quick disconnects to your old toggle vavle, just in case you ever wanted to fill a tank that did not have a bleed valve.






 
I topped off my 70 cf tank yesterday. It was about 3000 psi. Took it to 4500. Took about 5 minutes. 

I’m very happy with the Alkin W31 vertical. Couple modifications have really made it user friendly for my application Larger wheels and the mods discussed in this thread.


I think of the mistakes I’ve made and the knowledge gained I hope others among us benefit