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Air Arms TX200 HC

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    Jospap
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    Hi Jonnes:

    I´m one of those who think that the Tx200 is the  best springer airgun in the world. I own an AA  Prosport in .22 (FAC) and it´s been such a delight to shoot with it; 30-40 mm targets at 65 yards are no problem. Since I am a HFT/ FT  shooter  it was kindda a challenge to me trying to compete with a springer and  because of my previous experience with the Prosport, the obvious choice to me was a TX200 HC so… I order one in .177, walnut stock, set  @ 12 ft/lb from factory. I received  my rifle about one month ago and I have to say that coming out of the box it is the most accurate airgun I´ve ever shot. Here are some pics of my TX.

    Regards from Mexico 

    Jospap

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    ironlion269
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    Y’know how some items (cars and boats, for instance) appear on the scene and you just KNOW that the lines are perfect and the look is timeless?  That’s what I think when I look at the TX200.  It is a design that will still be wowing people a hundred years from now.  Enjoy that magnificent machine you’ve purchased, jospap!

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    Jonnes
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    @jospap, beautiful lines on that wood. I agree with you, the TX is the best airgun out of the box. Mine is in .22 because I wanted some extra punch, but that means the pellet trajectory is less flat than that of a .177, making it less suitable for long range. 

    @ironlion269; I agree, although the AA Pro Sport looks a little bit better because of the hidden cocking handle.

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    ironlion269
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    Jonnes, you say “lorry” and I say “truck”.  I’ll always love the look of the exposed underlever since the first springer I ever held was an old Diana underlever inherited from my Grandpa.  That’s one of the things that’s so great about modern air guns, the spectacular variety of styles and capabilities found across the spectrum of available guns.

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    Jonnes
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    Actually, where I’m from, we say “vrachtwagen”, but that’s a whole different story. I agree, it’s personal. Some like those tactical looking things, I prefer a nice piece of classic looking wood.  😉 

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    “Jonnes”It sure is, cheers! The TX200 HC has a 1/2 UNF female thread in the shroud so it’s just a matter of screwing it in.

    With springers the piston sound is the louderst, so normally a silencer on spring piston airguns doesn’t really make sense. But since I replaced the metal guide rod and top hat with a delrin Tinbum set, the gun is a hell of a lot quieter, making the muzzle bark a lot more noticeable. With the silencer screwed in, the noise is just 57 dB, without it measured 67 dB at 2 meters distance. So that’s well over 3 times quieter. Pretty amazing IMHO.

    
Actually each 3 dB represents a 50% reduction in power so 67-3 = 1/2 as loud; 64-3 = 1/4 as loud; 61-3 = 1/8 as loud; 58-3 = 1/16 as loud.  Probably doesn’t sound like it to your ear but 3 dB is 1/2 the power every time.  At 57 dB you are just below the average level of a conversation, exceptionally backyard friendly.  And that is one beautiful rifle.  I think I may have to gift a couple of my Diana’s to the grandkids and invest in a left handed one of those.

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    Jonnes
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    “oldspook”
Actually each 3 dB represents a 50% reduction in power so 67-3 = 1/2 as loud; 64-3 = 1/4 as loud; 61-3 = 1/8 as loud; 58-3 = 1/16 as loud.  Probably doesn’t sound like it to your ear but 3 dB is 1/2 the power every time.  At 57 dB you are just below the average level of a conversation, exceptionally backyard friendly.  And that is one beautiful rifle.  I think I may have to gift a couple of my Diana’s to the grandkids and invest in a left handed one of those.

    I was always under the impression that 3dB is double the power. “The human ear’s response to sound level is roughly logarithmic (based on powers of 10), and the dB scale reflects that fact. An increase of 3dB doubles the sound intensity but a 10dB increase is required before a sound is perceived to be twice as loud. Therefore a small increase in decibels represents a large increase in intensity. For example – 10dB is 10 times more intense than 1dB, while 20dB is 100 times more intense than 1dB. The sound intensity multiplies by 10 with every 10dB increase.

    So it’s a technical matter of perception and actual intensity. Never to old to learn. 😉 

    I think you’ll do your grandkids a huge favour if you gift them a couple of quality Diana’s and you won’t regret getting a TX200 yourself. True works of art and great shooters!

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    MarkChambers
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    “Jonnes”
    @ironlion269; I agree, although the AA Pro Sport looks a little bit better because of the hidden cocking handle.

    
 Yep. I bought the Pro Sport for exactly that reason.

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    Jonnes
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    Plus side on the cocking arm on the TX200 is the added weight on the front of the rifle, resulting in less noticeable recoil. Handled on of a friend the other day, but after shooting it for a couple of minutes, the sharp edges on the cocking arm on the Pro Sport started to irritate me. I’m glad I choose the TX over the Pro Sport even though it looks better.

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    Jonnes

    "oldspook"
Actually each 3 dB represents a 50% reduction in power so 67-3 = 1/2 as loud; 64-3 = 1/4 as loud; 61-3 = 1/8 as loud; 58-3 = 1/16 as loud.  Probably doesn't sound like it to your ear but 3 dB is 1/2 the power every time.  At 57 dB you are just below the average level of a conversation, exceptionally backyard friendly.  And that is one beautiful rifle.  I think I may have to gift a couple of my Diana's to the grandkids and invest in a left handed one of those.

    I was always under the impression that 3dB is double the power. "The human ear's response to sound level is roughly logarithmic (based on powers of 10), and the dB scale reflects that fact. An increase of 3dB doubles the sound intensity but a 10dB increase is required before a sound is perceived to be twice as loud. Therefore a small increase in decibels represents a large increase in intensity. For example – 10dB is 10 times more intense than 1dB, while 20dB is 100 times more intense than 1dB. The sound intensity multiplies by 10 with every 10dB increase." So it's a technical matter of perception and actual intensity. Never to old to learn. 😉  I think you'll do your grandkids a huge favour if you gift them a couple of quality Diana's and you won't regret getting a TX200 yourself. True works of art and great shooters!

    Heh, a blast from the past.  I just found this as I'm reading up on TX200HC (just ordered one).  Yes it is never to late to learn something new.

    If you look at the math, you'll see we are saying the same thing.  Being about half-deaf I don't really know much about "intensity".  What's cool though is this.  10 dB change represents either 10 times more or 10 times less power but 9 dB represents a total power change of 8 times.  That last dB actually counts for 20% of the net change (but only when you are increasing in power).  That'll bake your noodle.

    I did not know that power and intensity were different in the audio world. All my work with decibels has been in the RF world.

    😉 Right back at you.  =)

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    kingfisher61
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    Meet GB5.  It's a Mike Abernethy custom Mk3 TX200.  One of only 5 produced and tuned by Mike.  The first one went to George Bush hence the GB.  

    It's my only under lever.  In 177 it shoots lights out at 30 yards.  Super easy to cock and load because the bear trap is disengaged.   Some may think that's dangerous,  but it certainly is much less complicated to use.  Love this rifle for what it is and who made it.  Notice the brass upgrades from Rowan.  Certainly made a looker even nicer.  

    I'm with the rest of you who have one of these great rifles in that they certainly are quality made.  The British know how to do it right!!  

    JC

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    crowski
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    Kingfisher61 what a gorgeous gun you have! Lucky.

     I would disengage mine as well. In my opinion the 200 is the crème de la crème of the springers, out of the box, also the most difficult to load. Now I’m talking.22, couldn’t imagine.177. I find the pro sport easier by a bit to load.

    Can’t wait to open it up, I’ve been told not to touch the 200’s insides. Crow 

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    So I don't get it.  The rifle is hard to load so defeat the built in safeties?  

    That don't make a lot of sense.

    Well we are building these.five very special rifles… I have an idea! Let's defeat the built in safety.

    Oh well… Some things are just too wonderful for.me.

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    crowski
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    I’m not trying to live on the edge or lose a finger. I just find that the TX 200 and pro sport are by far my two hardest guns to load and there both .22 calibre. I couldn’t imagine loading a .177. The air arms and Pro sport would probably be my favourite guns but they’re not and that’s because the loading for me is very difficult. I have a LGU ,it has a little more room, for me it makes all the difference in the world, 77 and 97 no problem.

    Saying all this, you’re absolutely right the safety features  should remain. It makes no difference, loading. Thanks Crow 

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    kingfisher61
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    Cornpone

    So I don't get it.  The rifle is hard to load so defeat the built in safeties?  

    That don't make a lot of sense.

    Well we are building these.five very special rifles… I have an idea! Let's defeat the built in safety.

    Oh well… Some things are just too wonderful for.m

    Cornporn

    That's what you got out of the post?  I'm not sure what your point is.  The bear trap is a major pain in the ass.  I have an old 77k that has no trap at all.  Should I not appreciate it because of that or should I focus on all the positive aspects?  Just saying….if you don't have something good to say…. 

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