AEAC Video - Daystate's BIG Surprise!!!

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Great video, Steve, and the interviews are hilarious. I especially enjoy how you lovingly roast Michael on camera :)

Did anyone ask Daystate why they didn't stick a Bluetooth module in these guns, or failing that a hardware interface to Bluetooth (like some of chronograph)? Then build a Android/iOS app to control it with phones we all carry around. The functionality is awesome. I just don't get the disconnect of using a 1970s calculator design https://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/03/ten_classic_calcutors/ for guns they advertise as "the most advanced PCP sporter in the world".
 
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"allan_wind"Great video, Steve, and the interviews are hilarious. I especially enjoy how you lovingly roast Michael on camera :)
Did anyone ask Daystate why they didn't stick a Bluetooth module in these guns, or failing that a hardware interface to Bluetooth (like some of chronograph)? Then build a Android/iOS app to control it with phones we all carry around. The functionality is awesome. I just don't get the disconnect of using a 1970s calculator design https://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/03/ten_classic_calcutors/ for guns they advertise as "the most advanced PCP sporter in the world".
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Yeah agreed about the interface and I fail to see how it's the cheapest gun because "you get 21 guns with it". Adjusting the gun makes it a different gun? How? Adjusting FPS/air usage is hardly a new thing. Next they're going to show us their new cutting edge regulated PCP!!

Good video Steve, doesn't really seem like a setting anyone would dare say anything negative about it.
 
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"allan_wind"Great video, Steve, and the interviews are hilarious. I especially enjoy how you lovingly roast Michael on camera :)
Did anyone ask Daystate why they didn't stick a Bluetooth module in these guns, or failing that a hardware interface to Bluetooth (like some of chronograph)? Then build a Android/iOS app to control it with phones we all carry around. The functionality is awesome. I just don't get the disconnect of using a 1970s calculator design https://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/03/ten_classic_calcutors/ for guns they advertise as "the most advanced PCP sporter in the world".
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Great video Steve.

Allan, I had the exact same reaction. 
 
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"markmccready"Good video well made informative interesting to see the programmer. It will not make a new gun but will give shooters the ability to tune their rifles how they want them and not rely on dealers. That is if it goes on sale to the general public.
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Fair enough, it's a solution (400$) to a problem they've created. Most every other manufacturer in this price range offers adjustable parameters to adjust FPS/Air usage using tools that cost a few dollars. So throw your hex keys away and give us 400$ to do what other manufacturers offer for free. For example a 600$ Marauder can do this.

Admittedly it is cool that it works on older models that are electronically controlled, but paying this money to not have to send your gun away to get tuned or parameters changed is a problem they've created.
 
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@Glem.Chally makes an interesting argument that time will either confirm or refute. Daystate is trying to change the entire airgun landscape by betting the ranch on electronic tuning of their guns. I personally don't believe it's a marketing/manufacturing scheme to pry more cash from high-end buyers. I believe that Daystate sees this as the next leap in technology for air guns, much as electronic tuning of mass-produced car engines has become a significant factor in the world-wide car market.

The tipping point on this leap will only occur when (if?) Daystate can conclusively show that having the ability to tune an air rifle via electronic pulses provides more consistency than is possible with mechanical systems. That consistency must be seen in results that are verifiable and repeatable in regards to shot precision and accuracy. IF this electronic tuning can deliver the goods for shooters using Daystate rifles in many different airgun disciplines (similar to the way that optional electronic tunes for automobiles have proven effective for rally drivers, street racers, and even hyper-milers) then we are witnessing the next evolution in the airgun industry.

IF this tuning does prove to be superior to all previous tuning methods, then purely mechanical tuning will be eclipsed just as high-end benchrest spring guns were eclipsed by PCPs prior to the turn of the millennium. It all boils down to this: does Daystate manufacture air rifles with enough precision in the physical build to take full advantage of the increased precision of the electronic tuning they tout? If the answer is yes then greet the new dawn of uber-accurate sporter rifles.
 
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"ironlion269"@Glem.Chally makes an interesting argument that time will either confirm or refute. Daystate is trying to change the entire airgun landscape by betting the ranch on electronic tuning of their guns. I personally don't believe it's a marketing/manufacturing scheme to pry more cash from high-end buyers. I believe that Daystate sees this as the next leap in technology for air guns, much as electronic tuning of mass-produced car engines has become a significant factor in the world-wide car market.
The tipping point on this leap will only occur when (if?) Daystate can conclusively show that having the ability to tune an air rifle via electronic pulses provides more consistency than is possible with mechanical systems. That consistency must be seen in results that are verifiable and repeatable in regards to shot precision and accuracy. IF this electronic tuning can deliver the goods for shooters using Daystate rifles in many different airgun disciplines (similar to the way that optional electronic tunes for automobiles have proven effective for rally drivers, street racers, and even hyper-milers) then we are witnessing the next evolution in the airgun industry.
IF this tuning does prove to be superior to all previous tuning methods, then purely mechanical tuning will be eclipsed just as high-end benchrest spring guns were eclipsed by PCPs prior to the turn of the millennium. It all boils down to this: does Daystate manufacture air rifles with enough precision in the physical build to take full advantage of the increased precision of the electronic tuning they tout? If the answer is yes then greet the new dawn of uber-accurate sporter rifles.
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I agree electronic tuning is a good idea it's just the execution so far is unimpressive to me. As for efficiency they are already leading the way as far as I know, I'm not against new technology by any means, earlier models of this system many people upgraded to a heliboard to make it user friendly and more user friendly. So what did they learn from that? Again they didn't improve the onboard computer to make it tuneable instead they made this unit to be able to interface with the onboard computer. 
Why not put it all together? 
Why not include it with a 3k gun?
Why not put a mini USB socket on the board instead of this telephone cable and use a laptop or smartphone with some cheap software to do this?

The above bothers me more than the electronics in the gun, 400 on top to be able to tune your already 3k gun seems like a gouge doing it the way they did it. This is just my opinion as to how they're doing it.
 
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Great video! I love seeing all the guys who are behinds the scenes in the Airgun world. Cool to see Micheal too. 

I wish my Red Wolf would get here. Seeing everyone else shooting them is killing me! 
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I got this Rosso Edition in .25 cal w/ 60 foot pounds of energy. I have a feeling I will be changing the name of my Youtube Channel to the "Red Wolf Channel" and only make Red Wolf videos for the rest of my life. We'll see. -Nate 
 
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