AEAC Video - Daystate 110 Volt 4500 PSI Airgun Compressor

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"Oregun"@FunGun looking at my LC110, the floor is bone dry. Perhaps a difference between the 3 & 4 stage compressors? Just a guess as I don't see any moisture valves on the cylinders. The fill times on mine is about the same as Steve's test unit.
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Something else worth noting is that fill times are reduced with less moisture purging. For example I was able to go from 0-4500 in the 100 cf in 72 minutes purging every 15 minutes rather than every 10, which brought me to 79 minutes... so mileage will vary. Steve
 
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"Oregun"@FunGun looking at my LC110, the floor is bone dry. Perhaps a difference between the 3 & 4 stage compressors? Just a guess as I don't see any moisture valves on the cylinders. The fill times on mine is about the same as Steve's test unit.
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The 220 volt is a lot faster. RPM is close to 3,000 on that one and is like 1,500 ish on the 110v. But ya go from $2300 to $3000 too and can't plug in anywhere ya want. I don't forsee them sending the 220 for review too as they feel most will buy the more affordable 110 but ya never know.
The new 4 stage 110v's have a new pop valve hanging off the bottom of one of the pistons that you can see me take apart in last Wednesday's vlog. I'm guessing it's some sort of extra moisture relief or over fill protection... not 100% sure and neither is AOA, lol. Coltri just added it and nobody in airgunland really knows what it it yet.

Steve
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Hey Steve, Great review and explanation. The new 110's with 4 stages seem to have replaced the condensate separator with your new valve system. Wondering if Coltri is going to do this on all 4 stage portable units? Will be interesting to see. As has been mentioned by a few others, I don't get any condensate out of the first seperator either. Most of my moisture is dropped out of the purifier filter as well. Just for your information, the T2 has placards that remind you to dump the moisture every 10 - 15 minutes, so I'm not sure they have change the moisture dump schedule? They are both very nice units. I think they will be very reliable units for a long time. The more stages the better for reliability when it comes to high pressure compressors. Little side note, that when I fill my 100cuft from approx 3000psi to 4500psi, I don't ever really have a complete 10 minute cycle, it gets dumped by as part of putting the compressor away for the next time. Hope you get to keep yours!!

I will say I like your frame and cage system better than the T2. Getting to the oil drain is a pain in the rear.
 
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Before dropping this much money I called NuVair (Oxnard Ca.) last week. We can buy the "Coltri" But they come all optioned out and are 4 stage. He said that the units supplied by Daystate are built per their specification. No timers, no addition filters, no auto purge ect, ect. They are built as cost effectively as safely possible while still adding a great product at a great price to us airgunners. The 240v or gas fully optioned unit from them is $2700.00 plus shipping and tax if applicable. If the 3 stage is still available @ $1895.00 when my "fun fund" recovers from buying the Crown, I will buy one. If not? I will wait and buy the Coltri later this summer. 

Dennis
 
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Hey Steve, Just saw your VLOG on the compressor. I would suggest getting some surgical tubing and attach it to your output of your moisture drain and run the other end to somewhere you want to dump the moisture. I actually use a large coffee can that I put paper towels in the bottom and then poke extra holes in the top of the lid. Works great so I don't have to worry about "spray" getting on the floor.
 
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"Oregun"@FunGun looking at my LC110, the floor is bone dry. Perhaps a difference between the 3 & 4 stage compressors? Just a guess as I don't see any moisture valves on the cylinders. The fill times on mine is about the same as Steve's test unit.
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The 220 volt is a lot faster. RPM is close to 3,000 on that one and is like 1,500 ish on the 110v. But ya go from $2300 to $3000 too and can't plug in anywhere ya want. I don't forsee them sending the 220 for review too as they feel most will buy the more affordable 110 but ya never know.
The new 4 stage 110v's have a new pop valve hanging off the bottom of one of the pistons that you can see me take apart in last Wednesday's vlog. I'm guessing it's some sort of extra moisture relief or over fill protection... not 100% sure and neither is AOA, lol. Coltri just added it and nobody in airgunland really knows what it it yet.

Steve
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Hey Steve, Great review and explanation. The new 110's with 4 stages seem to have replaced the condensate separator with your new valve system. Wondering if Coltri is going to do this on all 4 stage portable units? Will be interesting to see. As has been mentioned by a few others, I don't get any condensate out of the first seperator either. Most of my moisture is dropped out of the purifier filter as well. Just for your information, the T2 has placards that remind you to dump the moisture every 10 - 15 minutes, so I'm not sure they have change the moisture dump schedule? They are both very nice units. I think they will be very reliable units for a long time. The more stages the better for reliability when it comes to high pressure compressors. Little side note, that when I fill my 100cuft from approx 3000psi to 4500psi, I don't ever really have a complete 10 minute cycle, it gets dumped by as part of putting the compressor away for the next time. Hope you get to keep yours!!
I will say I like your frame and cage system better than the T2. Getting to the oil drain is a pain in the rear.
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AOA tells me they elected to eliminate the chemical filter from the $2300 model to help keep the price down. The manual that came with this one says to purge every 15 minutes but in the summer here in Florida 85-90% relative humidity is normal so I'll be purging more if used outside and less if used inside. Indoors, the AC keeps humidity to around 55-60% here so perhaps I can get away with longer. 

Steve
 
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"FunGun"Hey Steve, Just saw your VLOG on the compressor. I would suggest getting some surgical tubing and attach it to your output of your moisture drain and run the other end to somewhere you want to dump the moisture. I actually use a large coffee can that I put paper towels in the bottom and then poke extra holes in the top of the lid. Works great so I don't have to worry about "spray" getting on the floor.
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Good idea, thank you ?... will be interesting to see how much less moisture I get by running it indoors rather than out.
Steve
 
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"FunGun"Hey Steve, Just saw your VLOG on the compressor. I would suggest getting some surgical tubing and attach it to your output of your moisture drain and run the other end to somewhere you want to dump the moisture. I actually use a large coffee can that I put paper towels in the bottom and then poke extra holes in the top of the lid. Works great so I don't have to worry about "spray" getting on the floor.
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Good idea, thank you ... will be interesting to see how much less moisture I get by running it indoors rather than out.
Steve
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I'm in Texas and I run mine inside as well.

ON the issue of the filter being removed, you still have the "tower" that holds the filter cartridge. You can order them yourself from
http://www.lawrence-factor.com/sec_filters.html  My part number is X152412. Lawrence Factor is a very reliable company when it comes to their filters. I trusted my life to their filters for many years in providing safe breathing air. Their phone number is 305-430-0550
 
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@whitetail if you want all the bells and whistles, of which some you didn't mention? its going to run you $3000.00 +or-. I have spend hours researching this, weighing the cost to benefit? I'll buy the 3 stage. I'll add addition moisture protection $100.00 (ordered), addition filters (ordered) I'll buy a run time vibration timer $20.00,(ordered) I'll buy the adapter from DIN to CGA (here) I'll watch the PSI gauge and shut it off at 44-4500 psi.
If the 3 stage sell out? I'll save my sheckles and buy a Coltri 4 stage with all the goodies for about $3000.00. And sell all this other stuff LOL.
Happy hunting!

Dennis


 
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"2D1C"@whitetail if you want all the bells and whistles, of which some you didn't mention? its going to run you $3000.00 +or-. I have spend hours researching this, weighing the cost to benefit? I'll buy the 3 stage. I'll add addition moisture protection $100.00 (ordered), addition filters (ordered) I'll buy a run time vibration timer $20.00,(ordered) I'll buy the adapter from DIN to CGA (here) I'll watch the PSI gauge and shut it off at 44-4500 psi.
If the 3 stage sell out? I'll save my sheckles and buy a Coltri 4 stage with all the goodies for about $3000.00. And sell all this other stuff LOL.
Happy hunting!
Dennis

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Well said, Dennis!
From my limited sample size, I believe the 3 stage is a winner. 
 
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Greetings-

I am also in search of a proper compressor. Perhaps some of you can help me out with answers to the questions I have come up with?

1- the Daystate LC 110 3 stage has a 1 HP motor from what I can tell. Does the 4 stage also operate on a 1 HP motor?

2- the equivalent Coltri MCH6-3E has a 3 HP motor, whether in 110 or 220. A 3 HP would seem more robust. Why would anyone want a 1 HP version of this?

3- the Coltri MCH6-3E sells for $2700 plus shipping, in the states, and includes a filter (both in 110 and 220). How much is the 4 stage LC 100 going for, plus a filter and w/o shipping costs?

4- Coltri tells me that the add on pressure adjuster is set from the factory to the max pressure one expects to use. For those who added one to an LC 110 was the pressure switch infinitely adjustable, or was there just one setting?

5- if you compared the LC110 and the MCH6-3E before purchase, which did you buy and why?

Kind regards,

641
 
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