Adding on Camera and POI change

Jimmy - Interesting that you posted this. I have recently put a camera mount for my Casio/Hawk SW. I have noticed when I zoom in to focus on the target and then zoom back out the image in the camera is out of focus. So I need to refocus to get a clear image - That got me thinking that the range on the scope would say I am at a different distance - but I didn't move!!

I don't yet understand what is going on, but it appears you can't go by the calibration on the scope wheel with the camera installed unless you recalibrate the scope. I'll be able to look into it more over the week end.
 
Jimmy,

Keep in mind "especially with a hold sensitive gun", that adding a camera and adapter can change the Harmonics of your gun. The pellet might exit at a different point in the barrel oscillation, due to the change in resonant frequency of gun. In my opinion this could change your point of impact while the camera setup is installed vs not installed. Just something to think about.

T.J.
 
"EXZIVER"Jimmy,

Keep in mind "especially with a hold sensitive gun", that adding a camera and adapter can change the Harmonics of your gun. The pellet might exit at a different point in the barrel oscillation, due to the change in resonant frequency of gun. In my opinion this could change your point of impact while the camera setup is installed vs not installed. Just something to think about.

T.J.
He should be okay with the harmoncis issue. Anytime something is added or removed from the "barrel" the harmonics will change. It will not change with additions to the scope.
 
"Y0u would think that with the camera directly mounted to the scope that would at least eliminate the possibility of inconsistent eye ball alignment which would be a benefit and then using the view finder to do the aiming would be ideal???. I shot a little this evening and my 60yd poi appeared to have dropped about an inch. I do believe that adding on anything to the gun will change the harmonics, maybe not a lot but some. I think it's going to work great. May have to re-zero a little and go from there."Jimmy,
I think KYairgunner nailed it with his reference to parralax. Consider a scoped rifle placed on sandbags and one is looking at a target. When parralax is not adjusted properly, even looking through the scope may appear clear, when one moves their head around the rear (ocular) lens they will see the cross hairs move relative to the target. So just by moving only one's head and not the rifle, the point of aim moves and the point of impact stays the same. This is called the "head bob" test. If parralax IS adjusted properly, the cross hairs will NOT move relative to the target. So possibly the camera is not mounted to where you would hold your eye. This became an issue and causing a POI due to incorrect parralax setting.
 
"As long as I leave my scope at it’s original sighted in power (15X) should the POI stay the same as without the camera attached?"

In theory IT SHOULD CHANGE because you are adding weight and changing the balance of the gun, different weight affect the way the barrel vibrations impact the POI of the pellet...But then not all guns have the same sensibility to adding weight at certain points on the gun...Usually if you add weight close to or at the balance point (front-rear), the POI is less affected.

I have seen both: Guns that DON'T CHANGE with the addition of an adaptor and camera, and guns that change very dramatically...My experience is that lighter setups, usually with cellular phones affect less that the same adaptor with a dedicated camera (heavier set up)....

This is one of those areas where you need to experiment, no two guns will react the same way...

Regards,

AZ

 
I would say the POI will not change but there some factors to bear in mind (with your suggested set-up).

When mounting 'additional optics' to the Ocular of a scope one frequently has to change the Ocular adjustment to suit the Camera (in this case) - the optimum Exit Pupil you've set for your eye will probably be too small for the add-on front lens.

At 15x Magnification you are severely limiting the amount of light for the camera to work with, in fact I'd bet that Nightshot or even SuperNightshot (on some Sony units) will hardly work at all above 10X.