Accuracy shootout: Sig Wraith alloy vs. H&N Field Trophy

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    GoldenStateAIRGUNer
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    Since I was pretty impressed with the H&N Field Trophy I decided to compare its accuracy to the Sig Wraith alloy pellet. I weighed the H&N pellets and chose five at 14.9 gr. I didn't show the velocity but these run at 825fps. The H&N hits were marked in florescent yellow. The Sig pellets were not weighed and chosen at random. All pellets tested were sized to .217". Distance was 30ft. Sig Sauer ASP20. 22cal

     

     

    As you can see the Sig Wraith alloy wins hands down in my rifle. I am the third person to confirm this. Travis at Airgun Depot, in his YouTube video, and Tom Gaylord in his ASP20 reviews also confirmed it. This gun loves these pellets !!

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    I have shot the H&N greens 10.03gr with great sucsess at 50 yards out of my HW95 900fps. I was told the H&N barracuda green heavyer alloy's 12.35 also shoot well.

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    GoldenStateAIRGUNer
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    The slower velocity H&N hits lower than the Wraith . If you stack up all five Trophy impacts you can see the Wraith had the tighter spread.

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    Windmill01
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    I’d be interested to know what pellet you used to zero your Sig and at what distance.

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    It's amazing how hard those alloy pellets are. I retrieved many of them and very liitle damage takes place. I think the H&N's are accurate but not quite as tight as the Sig. Another aspect of the Wraith is the nose design. It's considered a dome but actually has a more pointed nose than a regular dome pellet. This design should give better velocity retention at longer ranges. Granted, being alloy, it's light weight hinders velocity retention but it's nose should make up for some of its lack of weight.  It's also a long pellet at 12mm. Here are the H&N and Wraith compared.

     

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    I’d be interested to know what pellet you used to zero your Sig and at what distance.

    Gary

    I zeroed mine with the Wraith at 30ft. The Sig pellet at 40ft is just under 1/2" high. My thinking is it should be dead on in the 35 to 40yrd range.

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    Thanks for that. I’ve just taken this photo comparing the H&N Baracuda Green 12.65 gr and the H&N Field Target Trophy 14.65 gr. I shoot the greens with my HW77 and they are extremely accurate. I just put a Hawke Airmax 3*9*40 AO on it and I’m very happy with the set up. Both alloy pellets look identical but the H&N”s are heavier by 2.35 gr. If you see a tin of them next time your out buying some pellets give the Baracuda Greens ago, I don’t think you’ll be disappointed.

    Gary

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    I don't understand your accuracy test.  You are shooting one shot at each dot at only 10yds which ain't far and the one that hits the closest is the most accurate.

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    I don't understand your accuracy test.  You are shooting one shot at each dot at only 10yds which ain't far and the one that hits the closest is the most accurate.

    No, the closest to the hole is not how the accuracy was concluded.  The Sig pellet was sighted in at 30ft. The H&N naturally would shoot lower because its velocity is nearly 50fps less. The issue with the H&N pellet is the spread of the shots. Looking at the yellow highlighted H&N shots starting at the top left (shot #1) and finishing with shot #6 (bottom right) look at the difference between shot #1 and shot #6. If you were to impose those two shots on top of one another there would practically be 1/4" between there impact edges. Now just overlay the other four shots and you form a group pattern. Now do the same with the Wraith shots. Sure, it would have been better to just fire five shots with each pellet at two dots. The distance of 30ft is all I have available.

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    Thanks for that. I’ve just taken this photo comparing the H&N Baracuda Green 12.65 gr and the H&N Field Target Trophy 14.65 gr. I shoot the greens with my HW77 and they are extremely accurate. I just put a Hawke Airmax 3*9*40 AO on it and I’m very happy with the set up. Both alloy pellets look identical but the H&N”s are heavier by 2.35 gr. If you see a tin of them next time your out buying some pellets give the Baracuda Greens ago, I don’t think you’ll be disappointed.

    Gary

    They do look a lot alike. Have you weighed them to see if they are as advertised? 

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    brad870
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    When I shoot for accuracy I shoot 5 shot groups.  Irrelevant where they hit.  All I am worried about is they hit same spot into tiny little hole.  A few examples.

     

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    No I haven’t weighed them, I’m really not into the competitive side of things to warrant that much enthusiasm. I just grab from the tin. I do however experiment with different size pellets to get the best match for the rifle. I join in the friendly competition at my local gun club now and then and to my surprise I’m really not that far away from the died in the wool enthusiasts who sort and weigh. Sometimes I’ve even won the free pot of beer prize on the day. 

    Now if I was into the competition thing I suppose I’d be doing all sorts of things to get the best bang for my buck.👍

    Gary

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    Shoot five, five shot groups of each pellet at 25 yards and see how they compare. Unless I’m shooting one of my 10m guns that close distance doesn’t matter to me. IMHO ten yard testing for a hunting/higher power gun/pellet isn’t a true reflection of either the gun’s or the pellets accuracy potential.

     

    Your mileage may vary.

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    When I shoot for accuracy I shoot 5 shot groups.  Irrelevant where they hit.  All I am worried about is they hit same spot into tiny little hole.  A few examples.

     

    Good shooting ! The FB 300S is an excellent match target rifle. 

    I normally shoot 5 shots groups as well. By shooting a single shot into a small dot you still have a way of determining a group pattern. If one shot hits 1" low and 1/2" left of centerline, and the next ( on a different dot) hits 1" low and 1/2" right of centerline,  you have a horizontal spread of of 1".  If you shoot a single shot on five dots, and then overlay all five shots, a group pattern should emerge.  And it should be consistent with a single dot shot at five times. Unorthodox?? Yes, maybe so, but the results should be close to each other.

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    Like this.  

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    GoldenStateAIRGUNer
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    Yes !! Like that ! So do you get my point ? Stack all six of those on top of one another and you nearly have a six shot, one hole group. From what I recall, that .177cal rifle is shooting around 600fps. Or, 6-7 FPE. Magnum springers will never achieve that level of accuracy. Excellent shooting ! Do you compete? 

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    Shoot five, five shot groups of each pellet at 25 yards and see how they compare. Unless I’m shooting one of my 10m guns that close distance doesn’t matter to me. IMHO ten yard testing for a hunting/higher power gun/pellet isn’t a true reflection of either the gun’s or the pellets accuracy potential.

     

    Your mileage may vary.

    I agree ! But if your spreads aren't great at 30ft it's highly unlikely they will improve at 25 yrds. Tom Gaylord shot these at 25 yrds. I think he shot a .324" ten shot group at 25 yrds ! Far better than I could ever do.

    https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2019/01/sig-asp20-rifle-with-whiskey3-asp-

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    No I haven’t weighed them, I’m really not into the competitive side of things to warrant that much enthusiasm. I just grab from the tin. I do however experiment with different size pellets to get the best match for the rifle. I join in the friendly competition at my local gun club now and then and to my surprise I’m really not that far away from the died in the wool enthusiasts who sort and weigh. Sometimes I’ve even won the free pot of beer prize on the day. 

    Now if I was into the competition thing I suppose I’d be doing all sorts of things to get the best bang for my buck.👍

    Gary

    Can't go wrong with a beer prize ! Not sure if my ASP20 would be accurate with a pellet that light. Those pellets like alike but under 13 gr with the Sig may not be the most accurate. I would guess my gun would shoot them in the 900-915fps range. Not bad for a .22 cal springer. Especially one that has a 33lb cocking effort.

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    I do !! So do you get my point ? Stack all six of those on top of one another and you nearly have a six shot, one hole group. From what I recall, that .177cal rifle is shooting around 600fps. Or, 6-7 FPE. Magnum springers will never achieve that level of accuracy. Excellent shooting ! Do you compete? 

    No I just shoot for fun.  I like accurate guns.  I do see your point.  And thanks.  This 300 S for an airgun is wicked.  I tell people I could stick wooden matches up at 16yds, and shoot the heads off for a $1 bet on I hit it or pay you a $1 if I don't.  I would be money way ahead on good shooting days.

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    I do !! So do you get my point ? Stack all six of those on top of one another and you nearly have a six shot, one hole group. From what I recall, that .177cal rifle is shooting around 600fps. Or, 6-7 FPE. Magnum springers will never achieve that level of accuracy. Excellent shooting ! Do you compete? 

    No I just shoot for fun.  I like accurate guns.  I do see your point.  And thanks.  This 300 S for an airgun is wicked.  I tell people I could stick wooden matches up at 16yds, and shoot the heads off for a $1 bet on I hit it or pay you a $1 if I don't.  I would be money way ahead on good shooting days.

    I wouldn't bet against you ! You could even light those white tipped matches if you want. LOL !

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