A little advice FX vs Brocock

Hi folks,

I am kicking around either a Brocock (on of the HP Magnum types) or an FX (Dreamline or Crown Continuum). I want a gun I can hunt with and would like to be able to knock rabbits over from a good distance. Any of these guns will do the trick and they all have pluses and minuses. What I think I want to know from everyone is how dependable will any of these choices be? How often might they break down? How easy are the to fix? Any benefits or drawbacks that anyone can tell me about?

Thanks heaps for your assistance!


 
I would choose the Brocock, and did so twice with a Compatto and then a Bantam Sniper HR. Both have been and are sturdy field guns. I have hundreds of kills with my deadly Compatto. Haven’t shot or handled an FX yet. Good luck with your decision. I’ve had my Compatto over a year, thousands of pellets down range and not a single issue with the gun. I expect the same from the Sniper.
 
Obviously a personal preference, but I would always choose a solid barrel over a liner/sleeve design for hunting. By its looks, the Continuum appears to be a more sturdy design than the other FX liner systems, but it still has too many parts for my taste, at least in a hunting rifle. The Brocock, especially without a silencer, should be able to absorb minor knocks in the woods without changing POI. 
 
Fx is a alot more refined than the brocock. Brococks have a pull back bolt and a pretty stiff trigger so their a little more “ old school “. But, I throw mine in a soft case in the back of a polaris and ride miles and miles of rocky trails and it never skips a beat! Its a darn tough gun. Id say go with the brocock, the stocks are tough as nails too!
 
a hunting rifle should be simple,and for me light with good balance..plus I use a hand pump.Everything is accurate,but not light or well balanced.Brocock for me....I hope you can try the rifles out so you can make you own decision....I know that can be hard .

Reminds of ordering new speakers I have not heard,but have great reviews=chance.
 
I don't currently own either but imo go with the brocock. I have shot a few of them and the fx. Both are nice, but all I see are people posting all the time that some little knick knack on their fx broke or needs to be replaced. Imo 2k for something it shouldn't break in the first 3 months. I currently shoot a priest 2 as my primary shooter in 25 caliber and it's a tack driver.
 
I've never owned or shot an FX so I can only share my experiences with my Brocock Commander Hi-Lite. At the moment I have about 6,000 rounds through it and it is of the caliber .22. Using 14.3gr CPDs I average about 965 FPS. I've taken a rabbit at 40 yards and a squirrel at 100 yards (lung/heart shot). I've taken a few birds at 100 and 50 yards. I've got a few spinning targets setup and can swing them nicely at 55 and 70 yards.

Having shot the BSA R2 SE, Gamo Urban, and P-Rod I will say the bolt cocking force on the Brocock is there. It's not as smooth as the BSA but applying a little silicon grease as recommended in the manual helps free the bolt action a little more.

The trigger is crisp but does require some force. I understand it is adjustable but I've left it as-is and it doesn't really affect my accuracy as I've modified my trigger hold/positioning to accomodate for a stiffish trigger.

Having the option to do it all over I would re-purchase this rifle. The magnetic cover over the fill probe was hard for my big fingers to get out so I drilled a very small hole in the center and took a nylon strand out of some paracord to make a pull string.

I hope this helps! Here's a pesky laptop that was taken at 55 yards :)

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I don’t think you could go wrong with either Brocock or FX. I have a Compatto and it has been bullet proof and accurate for two years and thousands of pellets through her. She has also taken starlings out to 100yds. The ballistic nylon stock is very durable. I recently received a JSAR Raptor that has a tensioned barrel and shroud making it very durable in the field it is also more powerful than my Compatto and Regal and just as accurate, maybe more and waaaay mode efficient with air and just as light in weight.
 
Thanks for that advice. I went and checked out the JSARs and they look impressive. I do have concerns though since they are first run and hard to know what might go wrong on them. I am in New Zealand, so to get anything sent back to fix costs HEAPS! How would the JSAR be for working on yourself and what do you think of build quality and liklihood of them to break down more or less than any of the other guns mentioned here?

Also, how many shots do you get from a fill and it the barrel polygonal or old fashioned rifled?

Thanks again,

Pat
 
Thank you for all the advice folks, it really helps! I have a lot to think about but I would like to get something before xmas so I can pop some bunnies over the holiday here in New Zealand. Keep thosesuggestions coming!

By the way, of the guns we are discussing, which ones will be the easiest to work on and fix? Sending anything for service from this part of the world is a real pain!
 
My .02... I have a couple FX rifles with multiple barrels, I also have the Brocock Concept Lite, I have other air guns as well... All of these rifles are nice... If you're really wanting it for small game hunting and pesting, I would say go with the Brocock… My Concept Lite is built like a tank, it's a laser in 22, the trigger is actually very good, especially for a hunter, not too heavy, lots of options for stocks and pistol grips... The FXs are nice but I don't feel the FXs are as rugged or durable as the Brocock and the FX rifles have a lot more parts...

Like I say, this is just my .02

Ken
 
Eventually you have to reseal any PCP, I think the FX line is way more complicated with many more orings. I have the Bantam HR and it is simple and built like a tank. There is no bad choice here, I think the reason you here more about problems with FX is that they just have so many models and way more of them than any other high end AG, so naturally more issues based on scale.
 
I am switching next week from my .25 Wildact compact for a .25 Brocock Bantam Magnum. I still want (and will eventually get an FX impact for chucking slugs) but I am fairly convinced right now that the Brocock is going ot be a better fit for my hunting needs-so its enroute from AoA. I think the intended purpose should drive your decision. I got caught up in the stx removeable barrel system, and the small size etc, the forward lever...totally overlooked the smallish 8 shot mag, lack of easy single loading and measly shot count (24 is about it for this compact) and when the connecting pin fell out of the cocking lever linkage and was lost my day was cut short the: Regret sank in. I bought the gun to decimate a pest infestation, and if that's your problem with bunnies, keep it simple with a Brocock or Daystate.
 
Thanks for that advice. I went and checked out the JSARs and they look impressive. I do have concerns though since they are first run and hard to know what might go wrong on them. I am in New Zealand, so to get anything sent back to fix costs HEAPS! How would the JSAR be for working on yourself and what do you think of build quality and liklihood of them to break down more or less than any of the other guns mentioned here?

Also, how many shots do you get from a fill and it the barrel polygonal or old fashioned rifled?

Thanks again,

Pat

Pat, the guys who build the Raptors are the same guys that help design, build and fabricate some of Wicked Air Rifles platforms...branched off on their own. They make custom parts for many airguns so they know how to fabricate things right in a short time frame. The gun is very simple, they have a 5 minute take apart video online. It is very robust and solid. You might shoot them an email to get more info! Mine has exceeded all of my expectations in the short time I’ve had it, definitely punches well above its price point. I cannot foresee any issue with such a simplistic platform. Good luck! You live where I want to retire...someday hopefully 🤓.
 
Yeah I did write to the guys at Raptor and they got back to me. Unfortunately they said that the .22 is either slug or pellet and that they have not yet nailed down a way to do both from the same barrel, as they have in the bigger calibers. I would really love to have the option in the same barrel. I asked them about LW Polygonal, because Daystate and Brocock shooters have done well with slugs and those barrels. They said that with the poly barrel there was no accuracy, so that was not an option. I am waiting to see what they come up with. I am certainly interested, but I am leaning toward the Brocock HP Magnum style at the moment, because I would be able to do both slugs and pellets and could have one before xmas if I am lucky.