9mm Kalibrgun Cricket
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Another Excellent review Michael.
You really go over all the points in fine detail! To me, It seems like the effective range of this beast is rather short. Do you feel that this short range hinders ones ability? Or do you like the fact that you need to get closer to your prey for a proper shot?
I really liked the video...how you showed the rifle's accuracy and power. I have subscribed in hopes of further reviews....maybe one on your Swift Rapid???
Thanks for a look a a rifle that I would normally never get a chance to view
Mahalo
Mike Manabe
You really go over all the points in fine detail! To me, It seems like the effective range of this beast is rather short. Do you feel that this short range hinders ones ability? Or do you like the fact that you need to get closer to your prey for a proper shot?
I really liked the video...how you showed the rifle's accuracy and power. I have subscribed in hopes of further reviews....maybe one on your Swift Rapid???
Thanks for a look a a rifle that I would normally never get a chance to view
Mahalo
Mike Manabe
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Thanks Mike, I'm an amateur but I enjoy doing do it.
The sole purpose of that airgun for me was to hunt feral pigs. The forests are dense here and we rarely get a line of site greater than 50y. All of my pigs have been taken under 40y. The 9mm Cricket has a fair bit of kick, which make its a little more difficult to shoot long distance. I shot this target at 70y
As you can see the JSB's dry worked best. I also tried H&N Grizzly's which produced a shotgun like pattern. Manny gave me some Eujin pellets but I haven't tried them yet.
I like to keep the 9mm Cricket at max power to ensure swine success (81.2g pellets @ 815 FPS for 115 FPE) .
You may have read that the OEM barrel functions best at 750 FPS. I did find it a bit more accurate at lower velocities, but that may be attributable to the reduced "kick". Either way this bullpup was not designed for benchrest shooting. Its a hunter through & through. Albeit a bit heavy.... it packs a serious wallop!
The sole purpose of that airgun for me was to hunt feral pigs. The forests are dense here and we rarely get a line of site greater than 50y. All of my pigs have been taken under 40y. The 9mm Cricket has a fair bit of kick, which make its a little more difficult to shoot long distance. I shot this target at 70y
As you can see the JSB's dry worked best. I also tried H&N Grizzly's which produced a shotgun like pattern. Manny gave me some Eujin pellets but I haven't tried them yet.
I like to keep the 9mm Cricket at max power to ensure swine success (81.2g pellets @ 815 FPS for 115 FPE) .
You may have read that the OEM barrel functions best at 750 FPS. I did find it a bit more accurate at lower velocities, but that may be attributable to the reduced "kick". Either way this bullpup was not designed for benchrest shooting. Its a hunter through & through. Albeit a bit heavy.... it packs a serious wallop!
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Thanks for the review Mike. How loud is it compared to an MRod or .25 Cricket? I've been eyeing this gun for a while...
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Make no mistake any airgun shooting over 100 FPE is going to have some bark. The factory shroud does a decent job, but the carbon fiber shroud that Neil Clague made me is superior. I'll post pics of that later.
To answer your question, if your M rod is shooting 50 FPE then a Cricket that is shooting 115 FPE is going to be about twice as loud.
To answer your question, if your M rod is shooting 50 FPE then a Cricket that is shooting 115 FPE is going to be about twice as loud.
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Thanks for explanation video Mr. Michael,
I had watched this video on Youtube page many times, but I couldn't know about you then. Now, I know who are you.. I have same airrifle, and used it for testing a few times. I think that rifle nice, powerful but the worst part of it loading system. The correct placement of pellet nest to rifle is a completely big problem, awful terrific and unhandy..! That is the only reason, maybe I can sell it as a second hand rifle in near future in spite of become newest rifle in my collection... What do you think about the loading system of Cricket .357 ? Thanks...
I had watched this video on Youtube page many times, but I couldn't know about you then. Now, I know who are you.. I have same airrifle, and used it for testing a few times. I think that rifle nice, powerful but the worst part of it loading system. The correct placement of pellet nest to rifle is a completely big problem, awful terrific and unhandy..! That is the only reason, maybe I can sell it as a second hand rifle in near future in spite of become newest rifle in my collection... What do you think about the loading system of Cricket .357 ? Thanks...
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Funny, I saw the video before but never observed the cocking effort until reading Bulent's post. Why doesn't anyone make these in a pump format like a gallery rifle or shotgun? Rhetorical question, no need to answer.
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I agree, a side lever is a poor design choice for a bullpup. It has so many obvious disadvantages. It is positioned in your arm pit which is not exactly ergonomic. Quick follow up shots are more difficult. It's not ambidextrous. It does't look cool when you cock it. Apparently, it doesn't even provide a smooth motion on the 9mm Cricket which is something that all expensive air rifles should have. Pump or under-lever would be so much better for hunting, especially for game that never stands still.
I love the under-lever on my Career 707 and the Sumatra guns. I can get 4 shots off before the squirrel has run away if needed. The spring loaded mag on the Career 707 makes the lever-action very smooth and easy, even when I use 51g pellets. I know 9mm pellets are heavier but the design seems to work equally well on the Career Ultra.
Hatsan were also onto something with their earlier pump versions of the AT44 (other than the poor implementation). That design would translate very well into a bullpup and would be easy to move forward with a longer pump assembly.
The side-lever is my least favorite part of my Cricket. I think that, for $1500, they could have at least installed an extension arm to move the cocking lever further forward.
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I get that a 115fpe gun is never going to be quiet or backyard friendly but I wanted to ask what the noise sounds like? Are we talking about a loud ping / thud like on the Hatsan Carnivore 9mm or does it make a firearm-like bang / crack?
In one review I read, the 9mm Hatsan noise was compared to the sound of "throwing a bucket of wrenches against a metal flag pole". That sounds like a noise that might make your neighbors assume that you dropped something metal but not one that could be confused with a firearm. The shroud on my Cricket .25 is very good and not too different to the noise control from the Hatsan QE line. I was hoping that the 9mm Cricket moderator was going to make it one of the quieter 9mm.
I am in the market for a 9mm bullpup and noise control is an issue on the private land I hunt on. It hasn't been easy to find a reliable answer on which is the quietest.
The guy from WildWest told me that the 9mm Cricket noise was equal to the JKhan 9mm bullpup without the moderator but the Jkhan was much quieter with it's $40 LDC. He sells both so, as far as I know, he has no reason to push one over the other (unless he has a crate of Jkhan's he can't shift). He lost some credibility because the next thing he said was that the Benjamin Bulldog was the quietest 9mm of all. That's a 150fpe gun that is definitely not known to be quiet.
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Several months ago, I was shooting this gun in the back yard. I had some workers in front of the house. When I came to the front of the house to check up on them, they wanted to know what i was building. The workers thought I was using a nail gun. I asked them how loud the sound was and they said it was loud enough to know I was working on something. I didn't tell them it was a pellet gun
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That probably means I could get away with taking out a few squirrels in my yard but I probably wouldn't chance a long plinking session. It would be smart to buy a nail gun so if the neighbors called the cops, you could answer the door with it and claim you were building something.
Someone on my street was getting some building work done recently and I could hear a nail gun but I couldn't tell which house it was coming from. When I shoot at home, I usually fire out of a second floor window so nobody can see me (especially when using my Career 707). With my neighbors, I can get away with an occasional loud noise during the day but if they saw me with a gun, I'm not sure what they would do. I also aim at the ground so if I miss, the pellet just hits the grass. I bet the noise of the 9mm hitting a hard surface is almost as loud as the actual shot.
I can't wait to see what a 115fpe 9mm pellet does to a squirrel. I'm a total squirrel serial killer and I just love knocking them out of trees with my .25 Cricket. I bet the 9mm is twice as satisfying!
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Nice vid Michael. We did tune up the power on these to 940 fps with the 81.2 jsb's. We get around 7 shots before the reg trips. Perfect for the taste, one mag can do a great job in the field.
Its now a guzzler for air and so would any of the other big bores be.
Got to do a field test to share groups. (Accuracy)
Will run some tests at 100 and 150 yards and post them in the coming weeks.
About the sound report, live in an urban area and trust me it's just not neighbor friendly. Not after the mod but even at factory mode (115 fpe). I never found it sound friendly. Report would be suppressed in the open as opposed to my shooting conditions and would give an entirely different sound report.
As they say about most airguns it does sound different and not like a firearm, but definitely sends a red signal even if I try indoors.
So we went ahead and made an extension adapter which screws onto the end of the factory shroud to attach an additional screw on shroud of 9~10 inches. It's been transformed after that and even at 150fpe+ I can shoot in an urban area, the sound of the pellet hitting, aaah that's another story.I know it's like moving away from the bullpup compactness but what's the point when you can't shoot it to your taste. At 44 inches we still find it compact for its power and quietness.
Its now a guzzler for air and so would any of the other big bores be.
Got to do a field test to share groups. (Accuracy)
Will run some tests at 100 and 150 yards and post them in the coming weeks.
About the sound report, live in an urban area and trust me it's just not neighbor friendly. Not after the mod but even at factory mode (115 fpe). I never found it sound friendly. Report would be suppressed in the open as opposed to my shooting conditions and would give an entirely different sound report.
As they say about most airguns it does sound different and not like a firearm, but definitely sends a red signal even if I try indoors.
So we went ahead and made an extension adapter which screws onto the end of the factory shroud to attach an additional screw on shroud of 9~10 inches. It's been transformed after that and even at 150fpe+ I can shoot in an urban area, the sound of the pellet hitting, aaah that's another story.I know it's like moving away from the bullpup compactness but what's the point when you can't shoot it to your taste. At 44 inches we still find it compact for its power and quietness.
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One thing I realized about the 9mm cricket is if I have a shooting session at the house, I have to make sure my targets have a strong back stop just in case I get a bad flyer or a strong gust of wind. This gun has more energy then a 22lr. That in mind, I only shoot with jsb pellets at home and if I'm testing bullets or other band pellets, I go to shooting range.
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great review thanks for shearing it with us!.....can't wait to see some hogs getting the flop down!!!
Jonathan
Jonathan
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