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.22 sig sauer asp20

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    GoldenStateAIRGUNer
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    Crosman999

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    ….wouldnt a .22 sig asp20 be very comparable to an r1 / hw 80 in .22 cal ??  

    Minus the picittiny rail, moderator,cocking strength and I'm going to assume power level. 

    Crosman999

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    ….wouldnt a .22 sig asp20 be very comparable to an r1 / hw 80 in .22 cal ??  

    Minus the picittiny rail, moderator,cocking strength and I'm going to assume power level. 

    You would be correct on all assumptions.

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    GoldenStateAIRGUNer
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    I tried the Sig Crux lead pellet today and had time to shot a 32ft 5 shot group. First off, these pellets varied greatly in weight . They are listed at 14.66 gr and this is the pellet that is matched with the Whiskey3 scope that is still not available. I must have weighed 40 pellets and most weighed in the 14.9gr to 15.2gr range. Had a few weigh as low as 14.5gr. After selecting a dozen that weighed 14.7gr I shot five of them to see how they compared in accuracy to the Sig Wraith alloy pellet. I was quite impressed!  The last shot I pulled to the left and I knew that shot error was all mine to own. Still, four of those shots were inside the black marker circle.

     

    Did some chrony testing afterwards and 860fps is not to bad. That's with the guns receiver tube showing 72deg on my FLIR  TG54 temp gun. Half hour latter the guns temp was 74deg and I shot a 869fps. I'm fascinated in the relationship between the guns receiver tube temperature and its relationship to velocity. Guess I'm kind of a airgun tech nerd. LOL!

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    Rattus58
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    I've just acquired one of these, shot it only once so far, and the group is unfortunately this site won't let me post a picture from my pictures, but the initial impressions by yours truly are mostly good.

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    Rattus58
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    I've just got one of these in .22. Mostly good, the main complaint I have is that it has no provision for open sights… therefore… 😠 had to install a red-dot by UTG. Not that familiar with these, but after about a half a dozen shots, got it to group somewhat and at 20 paces off a rest, but not stabilized, seems to have settled in a fair grouping. Going to do some penetration testing if the rain stops between this and the Carnivore and possibly the .25 Torpedo. Otherwise… it's a real gun… has recoil beyond what some suggest, very smooth. Hefty gun, and doesn't exhibit the svelte nature of some guns like some of the Crossman and others. altogether… 👍

     

                                                  

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    Rattus58

    I've just got one of these in .22. Mostly good, the main complaint I have is that it has no provision for open sights… therefore… 😠 had to install a red-dot by UTG. Not that familiar with these, but after about a half a dozen shots, got it to group somewhat and at 20 paces off a rest, but not stabilized, seems to have settled in a fair grouping. Going to do some penetration testing if the rain stops between this and the Carnivore and possibly the .25 Torpedo. Otherwise… it's a real gun… has recoil beyond what some suggest, very smooth. Hefty gun, and doesn't exhibit the svelte nature of some guns like some of the Crossman and others. altogether… 👍

     

                                                  

    I enjoy my sig immensely.  After break in and learning the gun, you'll group even better with it!    It has become a trusted pester/hunter/target/plinker for me.Attached is a 5 shot group at 25 yards shooting off an ironing table and forearm bag rest using the 10.65 barracuda match.

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    I tried the Sig Crux lead pellet today and had time to shot a 32ft 5 shot group. First off, these pellets varied greatly in weight . They are listed at 14.66 gr and this is the pellet that is matched with the Whiskey3 scope that is still not available. I must have weighed 40 pellets and most weighed in the 14.9gr to 15.2gr range. Had a few weigh as low as 14.5gr. After selecting a dozen that weighed 14.7gr I shot five of them to see how they compared in accuracy to the Sig Wraith alloy pellet. I was quite impressed!  The last shot I pulled to the left and I knew that shot error was all mine to own. Still, four of those shots were inside the black marker circle.

     

    Did some chrony testing afterwards and 860fps is not to bad. That's with the guns receiver tube showing 72deg on my FLIR  TG54 temp gun. Half hour latter the guns temp was 74deg and I shot a 869fps. I'm fascinated in the relationship between the guns receiver tube temperature and its relationship to velocity. Guess I'm kind of a airgun tech nerd. LOL!

    Looks good I'd be interested in seeing 30-50 yard groups.

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    I tried the Sig Crux lead pellet today and had time to shot a 32ft 5 shot group. First off, these pellets varied greatly in weight . They are listed at 14.66 gr and this is the pellet that is matched with the Whiskey3 scope that is still not available. I must have weighed 40 pellets and most weighed in the 14.9gr to 15.2gr range. Had a few weigh as low as 14.5gr. After selecting a dozen that weighed 14.7gr I shot five of them to see how they compared in accuracy to the Sig Wraith alloy pellet. I was quite impressed!  The last shot I pulled to the left and I knew that shot error was all mine to own. Still, four of those shots were inside the black marker circle.

     

    Did some chrony testing afterwards and 860fps is not to bad. That's with the guns receiver tube showing 72deg on my FLIR  TG54 temp gun. Half hour latter the guns temp was 74deg and I shot a 869fps. I'm fascinated in the relationship between the guns receiver tube temperature and its relationship to velocity. Guess I'm kind of a airgun tech nerd. LOL!

    Looks good I'd be interested in seeing 30-50 yard groups.

    I don't have the place for that distance but a few Sig ASP20 owners on AGN have shown great groups at those ranges. The gun is quite capable of 1" groups at 50 yards.

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    Rattus58

    I've just got one of these in .22. Mostly good, the main complaint I have is that it has no provision for open sights… therefore… 😠 had to install a red-dot by UTG. Not that familiar with these, but after about a half a dozen shots, got it to group somewhat and at 20 paces off a rest, but not stabilized, seems to have settled in a fair grouping. Going to do some penetration testing if the rain stops between this and the Carnivore and possibly the .25 Torpedo. Otherwise… it's a real gun… has recoil beyond what some suggest, very smooth. Hefty gun, and doesn't exhibit the svelte nature of some guns like some of the Crossman and others. altogether… 👍

     

                                                  

    Hope you enjoy it!  I was going to get the synthetic stock version but I got tired of waiting so I spent the extra $80 and bought the wood version directly from Sig. I wonder how long that UTG scope will last for you ? The ASP20 is a known scope killer. What pellets have you tried ? Some like the AA 16 gr domes. I like the Sig Wraith alloy. They're listed as 12.35 gr but are 13.3 gr in reality. Accurate and hard hitting. Try those with a penetration test. The Sig Crux leads are also accurate. One thing I don't care for regarding loading the ASP20 is the tight pellet fit. 

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    Rattus58

    I've just got one of these in .22. Mostly good, the main complaint I have is that it has no provision for open sights… therefore… 😠 had to install a red-dot by UTG. Not that familiar with these, but after about a half a dozen shots, got it to group somewhat and at 20 paces off a rest, but not stabilized, seems to have settled in a fair grouping. Going to do some penetration testing if the rain stops between this and the Carnivore and possibly the .25 Torpedo. Otherwise… it's a real gun… has recoil beyond what some suggest, very smooth. Hefty gun, and doesn't exhibit the svelte nature of some guns like some of the Crossman and others. altogether… 👍

     

                                                  

    Hope you enjoy it!  I was going to get the synthetic stock version but I got tired of waiting so I spent the extra $80 on bought the wood version directly from Sig. I wonder how long that UTG scope will last for you. The ASP20 is a known scope killer. What pellets have you tried. Some like the AA 16 gr domes. I like the Sig Wraith alloy. They're listed as 12.35 gr but are 13.3 gr in reality. Accurate and hard hitting. Try those with a penetration test. The Sig Crux leads are also accurate. One thing I don't care for regarding loading the ASP20 is the tight pellet fit. 

    Agreed on the tight pellet fit.  I think I'm use to it until I grab another gun.  I guess it's ok, but i do have to seat it heavily with my thumb.  I even bought the Sig pellets figuring they'd be a better fit.  Not only weren't they a better fit, but the gun didn't really like them that much for me!

     

    I too went with the wood stock, and even though I'm not a fan of the "black" stain, I think it fits the gun overall and have gotten quite use to it.

    I love this gun, and if forced to choose onenof my guns I MIGHT choose this one.  Although less accurate than my hw97, it hits harder.  My diana 48 hits near as hard, but is SLIGHTLY less accurate for me right now. The hw80 is a great gun, but my sig hits harder and is more accurate.  And my ruger is just a plinker although gets some great velocity to the pellets and usually hugs around  17 FPE.  The trigger on the asp is great, although no rekord.  Its better than my t05.  Fit and finish of the gun is good overall.

    The sig isnt the top of the heap in all categories, but it's high enough in all categories to make it a trusted gun for me.

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    I've just got one of these in .22. Mostly good, the main complaint I have is that it has no provision for open sights… therefore… 😠 had to install a red-dot by UTG. Not that familiar with these, but after about a half a dozen shots, got it to group somewhat and at 20 paces off a rest, but not stabilized, seems to have settled in a fair grouping. Going to do some penetration testing if the rain stops between this and the Carnivore and possibly the .25 Torpedo. Otherwise… it's a real gun… has recoil beyond what some suggest, very smooth. Hefty gun, and doesn't exhibit the svelte nature of some guns like some of the Crossman and others. altogether… 👍

     

                                                  

    Hope you enjoy it!  I was going to get the synthetic stock version but I got tired of waiting so I spent the extra $80 on bought the wood version directly from Sig. I wonder how long that UTG scope will last for you. The ASP20 is a known scope killer. What pellets have you tried. Some like the AA 16 gr domes. I like the Sig Wraith alloy. They're listed as 12.35 gr but are 13.3 gr in reality. Accurate and hard hitting. Try those with a penetration test. The Sig Crux leads are also accurate. One thing I don't care for regarding loading the ASP20 is the tight pellet fit. 

    Agreed on the tight pellet fit.  I think I'm use to it until I grab another gun.  I guess it's ok, but i do have to seat it heavily with my thumb.  I even bought the Sig pellets figuring they'd be a better fit.  Not only weren't they a better fit, but the gun didn't really like them that much for me!

     

    I too went with the wood stock, and even though I'm not a fan of the "black" stain, I think it fits the gun overall and have gotten quite use to it.

    I love this gun, and if forced to choose onenof my guns I MIGHT choose this one.  Although less accurate than my hw97, it hits harder.  My diana 48 hits near as hard, but is SLIGHTLY less accurate for me right now. The hw80 is a great gun, but my sig hits harder and is more accurate.  And my ruger is just a plinker although gets some great velocity to the pellets and usually hugs around  17 FPE.  The trigger on the asp is great, although no rekord.  Its better than my t05.  Fit and finish of the gun is good overall.

    The sig isnt the top of the heap in all categories, but it's high enough in all categories to make it a trusted gun for me.

    I agree ! The Sig hits hard and is quite accurate considering it's power level. The Sig pellets fit tighter than others I've tried. I bought a couple tins of a Sig alloy hollow point that I've never seen. They look like the H&N Barracuda Hunter 18.2 gr. But these are rated at 11.8 gr but most are in the 12 gr range. Haven't put them to the test for accuracy but I did shoot some over the chrony with the Sig and my RWS 34. The weather was cool so velocities will come up in warmer weather. I'm only referring to the Sig velocities. Shot the 12 gr Zero Point 915 fps. My D34 averaged 866 fps with them. They have a very deep pocket. Here's a couple pics.

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    Rattus58
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    Heat… Noticed this yesterday when shooting a bunch of shots… that the gun heated up. I've not experienced this before, but of course compression is going to heat up, but I hadn't ever thought that it would be significant enough to actually be aware of it… which in 85 degree days here, ambient is up there, so was somewhat a surprise.

     

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    GoldenStateAIRGUNer
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    Your Sig's performance was made for the Hawaiian climate. Do you have access to chronograph? 

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    Ripper
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     One thing that turns me off about the gun is sigsauer won’t sell parts for it. I think you get a three-year warranty so if it breaks after that, what do you do then? 

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     One thing that turns me off about the gun is sigsauer won’t sell parts for it. I think you get a three-year warranty so if it breaks after that, what do you do then? 

    Agreed.  I wonder if that'll change over time?

    Plus, I'm over 8,000 rounds in, and the gun is as tight and fit as day 1….

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    chemclay
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    Does anyone know how the .177 asp compares in performance?

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    chemclay

    Does anyone know how the .177 asp compares in performance?

     

    18.5 ft lbs with 10.5 grain pellets.  Accuracy is good, 1.5 inch spinners are boring out to 50 yards at the house.  I had mixed results shooting a couple rounds of field target.  Its hold sensitivity starts to show on elevated targets.  If the targets are level I shoot about the same percentage as with my HW97.

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    GoldenStateAIRGUNer
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    My Sig in .22cal will hit 23 ft lbs in warm weather but only with light pellets. The pellets in the 14-15 gr net me 22.7 ft lbs in warm weather.

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    chemclay

    Does anyone know how the .177 asp compares in performance?

     

    18.5 ft lbs with 10.5 grain pellets.  Accuracy is good, 1.5 inch spinners are boring out to 50 yards at the house.  I had mixed results shooting a couple rounds of field target.  Its hold sensitivity starts to show on elevated targets.  If the targets are level I shoot about the same percentage as with my HW97.

    That's really good c_m_; how did you decide on the .177?

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    My .177 is spitting 19.5 ft pounds with 10.5 grain crossmans. The FT trophies and JSB 8.44s are both over 20 ft lbs. About 600 pellets thru it. 8.44s are 1060 ft per second.

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    I was thinking about doing a ft match and the crossmans were the only ones under 20 ft lbs. Luckily the are really accurate in that rifle. Tight fit.

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