22 cal or 25 cal for long range

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    bigHUN
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    I am waiting for my new FX Impact for several months now here in Canada, it looks like finally this week will arrive to my local dealer.

    I never shot 100 meters (and beyond) with an airgun before but this is what I see challenging and that is attracting my attention the most. Btw, I was shooting in competition Fita archery 30-50-70-90 meters for over ten years and I liked these long distances very much.

    I had in mind a 25 cal 700 mm barrel, but open for other suggestions. Also pellet or slug liner or both?

     

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    Redick
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    Get a impact mk2 X barrel that way you can change calibers easily also get pellet and slug liner now your all set😉

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    Corvid_hunter
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    Redick

    Get a impact mk2 X barrel that way you can change calibers easily also get pellet and slug liner now your all set😉

    That's what he is getting. He's asking which caliber would be better for long distance.

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    bigHUN

    I am waiting for my new FX Impact for several months now here in Canada, it looks like finally this week will arrive to my local dealer.

    I never shot 100 meters (and beyond) with an airgun before but this is what I see challenging and that is attracting my attention the most. Btw, I was shooting in competition Fita archery 30-50-70-90 meters for over ten years and I liked these long distances very much.

    I had in mind a 25 cal 700 mm barrel, but open for other suggestions. Also pellet or slug liner or both?

     

    I was going to buy the 700mm .25cal MKII from AGS (for longer distances) but ended up with a .177cal Daystate Red Wolf. That's quite the 180 I did.

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    bigHUN
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    Is the FX predefined as a Kit (in a box) by the manufacturer or the dealer have a liberty to put a Kit together by my request (my choice of cal and barrel length)? I would like to have no spares sitting in my drawers.

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    biohazardman
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    The slug liners shoot pellets very well. I have the .25 in 600mm STX and a 700mm slug barrel and with NSA and VK slugs plink spray paint cans at 200 yards with it. A .177 is not normally a good 100 yard pellet gun.

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    Corvid_hunter
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    I'm pretty sure the .25cal comes in 700mm barrel length only. On the AGS website they have the .22cal with a 600mm and 700mm options for purchase. I would go with the 700mm barrel myself.

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    bigHUN
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    Corvid_hunter

    How is the .177cal Daystate Red Wolf behaving with 100 meters? assume no wind or elements to mess with.

    You mentioned me the RW earlier but I was kind of reluctant taking the electronic gun here to Great Lakes (Toronto), in summer months a lot of hot and humid days (talking 90% humidity) even my compound bow strings missing the accuracy a lot (no way of shooting indoors and outdoors in same day without serious retuning). And second, that humidity swings was my concern for the wooden stock as well.

    And btw, I had couple years earlier every my archery tournament was purring rain big time I could barely see my 40 cm target at 50, but we never stopped the game just kept going, stop only if lightening comes.

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    Corvid_hunter
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    I just received the rifle two days ago and have only shot it out to 30 yards for zeroing in purposes. The .177cal isn't a 100 yard gun unless you were shooting some type of slug (in my opinion). I'll likely end up buying a .22cal HP version for longer distances and possibly slugs. As far as the electronics go, supposedly they are nothing to be concerned about with regard to moisture etc. The laminate would stock might be more stable than the walnut version in high humidity.

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    DanielL
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    .25 caliber beats .22 at long range.  In a competition where .25's are allowed you will be at a disadvantage.  Having said that, .30's are even better but .22 can be quite sufficient. 

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    bigHUN
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    For shorter distance plinking (up to 50 maybe) I have a franken 22, I was building it in my basement over 3 winters :) and the performance is not bad at all.

    The wooden stocks many look very impressive as an art work, but somehow I just like the bare metal skeleton guns, the RAW chassis is really tickling my attention but that won't be available in Canada soon.

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    Gerry52
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    .25, ABSOLUTELY!  They carry so much better in the wind. IMHO don't even consider a  .22, you won't be disappointed. 

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    bigHUN
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    What weight pellets and slugs(in 25) to start with?

    I have access to these 

    NSA slugs in 38.5, 36.2, 33.5, grains at the FX dealer.

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    Pellets JSB Hades 26.54, JSB Exact King Heavy 33.95, Exact King Heavy MK2 33.95, Exact King 25.4

    Any other-better I shall be looking up online

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    sonny
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    Actually a couple 22s have won the EBR so to say one is better than the other ??? IDK, also slugs in either caliber can be very accurate  from what I have seen. Shot count is better in .22 and ammo is cheaper. I do believe the .25s have a lot more energy/damage on game.

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    Jayson
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    In 25 cal, especially an FX gun, the standard is 34 grn mk2’s with a pellet liner and mk1 with slug liners as both my 600 and 700 slug liners shoot mk1’s better? 25 cal slugs have been hit and miss from most the threads I have read? My experience has been the same, my 600 liked the 36 grn nsa dimple nose the best and no others, my 700 only liked the 33.5s? The only nsa slugs I have not tried is the 38’s, for reference, good =moa or [email protected] 5 shots or more.

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    Centercut
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    It’s a toss up. The .22 RD Monsters have as good a BC as the .25 heavies, plus they shoot better at higher speeds. As far as slugs, has anyone seen the Air Hunters and AirArmsHuntingSA YouTube channels? Seems they all shoot .22 slugs and have no problem reaching out long distance to 200 yards. It all boils down to you. How good are you, not what caliber are you shooting…

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    bigHUN
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    Thank you guys for educating me, can't wait for the nice wetter, looking through my windows now (9.30 pm) snowing like a sob

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    srtmat
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    Both calibers will shoot great out to 100+.

    .22 cal slug performance is really shaping up nicely and the .25 slugs are still in there infant stages.  We still have yet to see how H&N, FX Hybrid and the JSB’s will do.

     These guns are just begging for better and more consistent ammo and it looks like some great products are coming soon.

    I really love .25 and that’s what I got my FX Crown in.  This is going to be the summer of slugs. I can’t wait to start testing.

     

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    mtnGhost
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    My 22 cal slug gun builds have had minute of angle accuracy out to at least ~225y with 30gr ammo; some have been closer to 250y when I tested off of my little Caldwell Stinger. The heavier the projectile, the better BC and "reach". On the other hand, my .25's have had minute of angle accuracy to 300y with 38.5gr and 43.5gr Nielsen's. 

    If you have enough muscle to push 36+ grain 22 cal ammo out of a barrel that likes them, then you'd be pleasantly surprised at the results!

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    Pulpit
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    Some great comments above regarding the .22 cal . I also chose. 22 cal for my upcoming impact x 700mm buy.  I like the idea of the .22 jsb slugs being the same weight as redesigns. If you want to handle/shoot a redwolf hp .22 drop by my place any day you like you're a hour away.

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