1/2 inch at 50yards standard??

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All my guns can outshoot me, I had the honor to grow up 15 to 28 years old with a master shooter, Mike Branson,
Not sure what happened to the guy, He was a natural born master shooter, It did not mater the gun,
We shot cheap pellet guns for hours and hours in my back yard, Hunted every animal in West Texas.
22, 270, 308 , 300 HH mag, and every kind of pistol made, He could pick it up and shoot it dead on,
It was crazy,
He was the first and real gun nuts that I have known,
oh , His hero was Clint eastwood, He walked and talked like him , and looked a little like him to...
Mike
 
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Peole and iride, I love a gun that I know is better than my ability. Then I know if I do my part it will perform to my expectations. My brother said of my wildcat, "this is nice", because everyone likes to see just what they can do. For me it gives me confidence to make difficult shots hunting. 
I took a doe 15 years ago that spooked near my stand, then ran 75 yards. I knew the railroad tracks on our farm were that direction and they would be elevated from my location in the oak flat. I scoped an opening and waited and I saw her moving up the bank. I had a pie plate size view, and she paused to look left down the tracks. In that hole of a shot a placed a .243 nosler partition in her neck, and she dropped on the spot. I know that Ruger Rifle well. It feels like an extension of my arm. My brother and cousin looked back into the woods and said, " how did you make that shot from your stand!" I just said I had a hole and knew what this gun could do. 
 
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"peole"1/2in at 50 yards is 1MOA There are plenty of sub moa rifles that will do much better. On other side original M16 is 4.5MOA AK47 is 5-6MOA.

Nobody will be impressed with sub MOA rifle to do 1/2in groups at 50 yards.
On other side - best sniper in the world will not do make original m16 group better than it can do.
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I'm not sure I agree with that. 1 MoA is impressive accuracy. It takes a near-perfect technique and rest to achieve it.

While it is true that there are a lot of sub-MoA rifles out there, we have to remember that they're shooting bullets that are not nearly as affected by the wind as our little 7-40 gr. diabolo pellets traveling at a sedate 900 fps. (130 gr. at 2500 fps is common with powderburner rifles) BC is much, much better too.

A 50 yd. MoA shot with an airgun is like a 200 yd. MoA shot with a powderburner.
 
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I only read your first story,
So once me(I'm 16) and my friend(43) went target shooting.
I placed few bottle caps at 50yards,
He was using Fx Boss .30 or some other Fx model with an MTC Mamba(or Ziess).I was using Walther Dominator 1250 .22Cal,with UTG Leapers 6-24x50AO(Chinese not original).We rested the rifles on the Car(didn't used Benchrest).So the pellets were JSB .30 and I was using Gamo Pro Magnum.I was using 2mildot and Then we started shooting.I shot very great though he missed every single cap.So It was a great moment for me.Though I was sad at him, SO it happens, But when I'm hunting I usually miss and my dad never misses.This is really furstrating.
 
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Sheharyar, don't worry to much on the hunting. Like shooting, it is a skill that takes time to learn. As you hunt you will encounter more diverse situations that will increase your knowledge and skill. There are so many facets to hunting, like knowledge of your quarry and its habits and patterns, the terrain, wind etc. These take time, but you can learn a great deal from your father, so watch him and ask him questions about why and how he does certain things. 
My nephew watched one of my squirrel videos and he saw that my crosshairs were over the squirrel and he said, "Aren't you aiming in the wrong place". Before he could finish the sentence, the squirrel sat upright and the crosshairs were just in front of his ear. I let the pellet fly. He looked at me with astonishment and said, " How did you know he would do that?". I said with a smile, I know squirrels behavior, because I have hunted them a long time. 
 
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Yep, all my guns out shoot me😳Lol. I'm just not a consistent guy some times. Having a gun that will easily do 1/2 or less just helps us poor slobs who can't be 100% all the time do a little better. Shooting paper is not easy for everyone, but put a pest/food/predator in the sight hair and watch out! 
I tend to use high mag on my scopes 12+ zoom cause my bad vision which makes you move around that little dot your aiming at. Turn down mag so you can concentrate at keeping it in a smaller area better. 
 
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Shooting is a perishable skill. You have to shoot and shoot often. I had a 22 put in my hands at 10 years old and that summer I shot and killed my first groundhog. All my uncles would say that I had hawk eyes, but its the forum of the shooter also. I can no longer shoot free standing and all my shots must be made off of a bench. Its unfortunate as you get older you cannot hold the gun steady, at least for me. I enjoy shooting off the bench and it is the only way I would shoot a critter. I will not make a shot if its off the bench. If I am walking around and just plinking that works for me and I usually can hit what I am aiming at, but when shooting a critter, shot placement is critical so I just will not shoot at a animal. unless its off my bench or from my Caldwell Deadshot Fieldpod. But again this is what works for me. I am still amazed how well I can shoot a air rifle.
 
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^ Another reason I'm loosing weight to get hip joints replaced & 2nd Lumbar fixed as well. Would make hunting easier, especially with standing/walking...& standing up straight. My knuckles are gettin' sore from walkin' on'em. lol. So bench shooting would be ok for now. But the woods are callin' me back home, country roads, take me home...
 
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firstly , hunting and shooting require different skill sets -- you do not need 1/2" groups to kill a whitetail deer -- the kill zone is much larger -- hunting will require some stalking skills / being quiet , where there is very little need to sneak up on a paper target -- as far as natural skill vs training and practice , I believe one would need a combination of both to achieve world class results . case in point -- Virginia Thrasher just won the Olympic gold medal at RIO in 10 meter air rifle , and she defeated the silver and bronze medalists from china who were former gold medalists, as well as competing / qualifying against an international field of the best 10 meter shooters on the planet . . she began shooting just 5 years ago -- world class olympic air gun shooters are virtually born with a 10 meter junior rifle in their crib . they start training early in life - many years of strict regimen and practice follows - they are , in fact , world class athletes . with only 5 years of shooting experience , it is clear Virginia thrasher has a MASSIVE dose of natural talent . in addition , her shooting coaches have stated that her best quality is her " coachablity "
 
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Good advice on the magnification nappyman!

Airborne, I had to start using reading glasses this year. Aging isn't always kind. I'm sure since sight and hearing depreciate, taste and smell probably do too. Thank goodness as aging progresses we can get help from glasses, hearing aids, and viagra(hahaha). I'm not sure they've developed anything for taste or smell. Maybe that's a good thing. 

unionrdr, if you have to crawl to the woods do it brother. Nothing worse than giving up. Sounds like you are still hungry and that's good!

Good info fender guy. Thrasher worked hard for sure, but she's definitely an example of raw talent with only five years under her belt. I for one absolutely love hunting.
 
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I would have to disagree with the thought if you can shoot 1/2 inch @ 50 yards you should be able to shoot 1 inch @ 100 yards. Both are 1 MOA but at twice the distance the wind, your barrel and crown, pellet BC all play a greater part in accuracy. At 50 yards most pellets don't have a chance to tumble or spin / spiral which i found out recently and the only way for me to see it was thru a scope cam. At 50 yards very little if any instability at 75 yards it was clear and at 100 yards it was unmistakable. Even if you gun has no defects and can out shoot the shooter, it still takes quite a bit of skill by the shooter to MAINTAIN 1 MOA at 100 yards with groups averaging 7-15 pellets.
 
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"unionrdr"^ Another reason I'm loosing weight to get hip joints replaced & 2nd Lumbar fixed as well. Would make hunting easier, especially with standing/walking...& standing up straight. My knuckles are gettin' sore from walkin' on'em. lol. So bench shooting would be ok for now. But the woods are callin' me back home, country roads, take me home...
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Love the John Denver reference!

Losing weight helps. PM me if you want some tips.
 
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"Sheharyar"I only read your first story,
So once me(I'm 16) and my friend(43) went target shooting.
I placed few bottle caps at 50yards,
He was using Fx Boss .30 or some other Fx model with an MTC Mamba(or Ziess).I was using Walther Dominator 1250 .22Cal,with UTG Leapers 6-24x50AO(Chinese not original).We rested the rifles on the Car(didn't used Benchrest).So the pellets were JSB .30 and I was using Gamo Pro Magnum.I was using 2mildot and Then we started shooting.I shot very great though he missed every single cap.So It was a great moment for me.Though I was sad at him, SO it happens, But when I'm hunting I usually miss and my dad never misses.This is really furstrating.
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We call it "buck fever," Sheharyar. When hunting an animal, there is an excitement present that is not there when shooting targets or plinking. I think it is a carry-over from the days when humans were in *almost* as much danger as the prey they were hunting. Adrenaline ready to go.

I've shot many birds and squirrels now, but I still can feel my heart rate elevate when I bring up the rifle, see it through the scope, and get ready to send the pellet. Next time that moment comes for you, just remember to SQUEEZE the trigger, not jerk it, in all the excitement. Try to keep those good habits you develop when target shooting. Also, try to practice shooting from positions that you might have when you're hunting. If you only shoot from a bench, it's going to rock your world if you have to make an offhand shot in the field.

It's great advice from plinker, by the way. Comes from experience. Being able to learn from the experience of others will shorten your learning curve IMMENSELY. Reading books and articles helps, but being out there with your dad is just a lot better. Not only are you spending time with him, but you can see cause & effect right there.
 
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