0.275 inch 50 yd group with a vintage springer. Just had to share..

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    Yrrah
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    Had been shooting at. 50 metres and 66 yards this morning. Then came back to my zero range at 50 yards for just one group.

    5 shots 50 yards 11 fpe 790 fps 7.9 gr JSB .177s shot from a 1982 vintage FWB 124D .177 rifle. Shot off tha elbows with wrist rest on a sand bag, rifle lightly rested on the forward palm but lightly pulled back with two fingers pressing the front of the stock either side the cocking lever and resulting in light stock to shoulder pressure.  No hold at all with the trigger hand. Trigger pressed towards the shoulder with tip of finger pad.

    Ctc group size approx 0.275″ or a tad over 7 mm.  
    Please enjoy my pleasure and relate to it as though it was your own.  Best regards Harry in OZ.
    Please expand / spread the pics for closer viewing. The right hand coin is a US dime, the left is Aus 5c piece.

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    dirtbikerick
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    Very nice shooting, you are making me want to get my hw97 out.

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    Grin_Reaver
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    Great Group. Nice to finally see a picture of you. That rifle looks like you just took it out of its box for the first time. I wonder what the shot count on that beauty must be.
    Could you describe how you line up the reticle and when you decide to let the pellet go when shooting off elbows. I’m asking because it looks like you can achieve very stable sight picture. I have read your technique for PCPs shooting off of bags.

    Finally it is always a pleasure reading your posts but this one is special. Thank you.

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    D-RIG
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    This is some fine shooting , Thanks for posting ,
    your post makes me want to get get my vintage 
    Beeman R-1 out although it has got the pellets
    touching at 50 yards it has never stacked them 
    like your gun did . Good job Yarrh . 

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    Glem.Chally
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    Great shooting that’s fantastic!  I still want to get a good springer at some point,  always had shitters.

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    mubhaur
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    Extremely nice shooting dear Harry,

    No doubt FWB make great guns and you are no doubt a skilled shooter.

    To me its more important than 100 yards group with a pcp.

    Regards,

    Umair Bhaur

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    Paulcat
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    It’s a different kind of satisfaction grouping like that with a springer,after the ease that seems to compare with a PCP.
    Has the replacement for the broken Crown barrel arrived? Like to here your thoughts on the Crown.
    Cheers Paul.

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    Yrrah
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    Yes Paul,
    I have had the replacement barrel for some time now.
    It is very very accurate and the rifle has already shot well under moa at 100 yd including one of 0.475″.
    It shoots Kings, King Heavies both 1 and 11 Mks, Baracudas, Polymags and also Benjamins (the last acceptably but they are dirty).
    My current preference is for King Heavies Mk 1 (the Mk 11 is not readily available here in OZ yet and I only have a few, thanks to Michael in Victoria).
    I size the Mk 11 skirts to 0.2515, then they load easily into the magazine,  and have been lubricating them with the original Kryrtech, which has just about run out and am finding it hard to get here.

    As of yesterday I am shooting the Mk 11  Heavies at 860 fps on Max and tp 3. Reg is at 130 bar on the rifle gauge.
    Longest head shot rabbit is 131 yards so far in our open country.  This afternoon, 7 for 7 head shots at 44, 36, 50, 87, 99, 100, then another at 45 yards. It was a nice fresh still afternoon after a thunder storm that gave us an inch of welcome rain. The bunnies came out for a little late afternoon sun.

    GR,  I hold as steadily as possible and accept that 1/10th of an inch of wobble and keep the trigger hand from holding the grip whilst pressing the trigger  on the 124D. I have  never  subscribed to cheek welds or any other lateral stock pressure. I seldom shoot purely off shoulder which does necessitate some lock up strategies.

    Thanks Mubhaur.  Shooting very well at long range with PCPs requires the same care as shooting springers. 
    Kindest regards to all ….. Harry.
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    SMH77
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    That is phenomenal shooting-especially from a springer. And not benchrested?!?!  Wow!!! Incredible-you have every right to be thrilled-congrats!

    That 100 yard group was shot with the same gun, the same way???  Astonishing, seriously!  

    Edit: I now see that the 100 yard group was in context to the Crown!  🙂

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    jking
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    It’s always nice to put a face with a name. I’m assuming this is the farm your always referring to. Your family’s place? Looks like a great place to shoot with the rolling hills and trees. Yeah I think you give everyone the desire to get off our butts and try some of the long range stuff. Congrats on the great group and thanks for sharing the photos Harry.
    Jimmy

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    tibor
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    I agree super nice and great shooting..like your passion
    ever see these at your place..?

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    GLPalinkas
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    Harry, Nice to show that some of us “old timers” still know how to shoot…. What a nice rifle and an even better demonstration of her capabilities.

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    10x
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    Your shooting techniques are demonstrably the best….but your springer choice couldn’t be better….

    All that remains of many high quality German break barrel spring guns that I’ve owned is a lone FWB 124D with a Macarri twist-on-the-guide spring in it…..as you well demonstrated these FWBs are the easiest to shoot accurately break barrel guns ever….I find mine to be the least hold sensitive of any spring guns…(except the non recoiling FWB300S)….

    Thanks for sharing Harry…this time and all throughout the many years in several forums….

    signed,
    looong time Yarrah fan.

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    tiger1
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    Has your FWB 124D been tuned or is it stock?  The is amazing shooting  Harry!

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    Yrrah
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    “tiger1”Has your FWB 124D been tuned or is it stock?  The is amazing shooting  Harry!

    
No professional tuning Tiger.
    I put in a new piston seal, the old one was cactus. Also put a Macari spring in as per instructions, and a new breech seal. 
    Otherwise it is a stock FWB 124 D made in 1982. I bought it from a deceased estate sale a couple of years ago so don’t know how much use it had over the years but it was obviously well looked after. 
    The next group was at 50 metres/55 yards and wasl under the half inch. I won’t be needing another break  barrel spring gun any time soon.
    Kind regards, Harry.
     

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