WRABF…..ERABSF…..USARB 25 meterTarget post 11/30/15
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Here's my target (250-5X) shot with my bone stock 12 fpe HM1000 at 25 yards outdoors. Can I do this every time? Probably not, but IMO the shooter is the key, not the gun. There are many guns out there capable of shooting 250s, but it's the nut behind the trigger that has to make it happen. I can't say enough about RAW rifles.
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At least with benchrest shooting, I believe the gun is more important than the shooter. Shooter skill is less important indoors, and outdoors under calm conditions. When the wind is blowing then flag and hold-off skills come into play. Also higher power / BC / etc requires less skill than (say) shooting at 12 fpe, since low power is more affected by wind. I've seen skilled LV shooters hold off 2-3 rings in the wind and get Xs.
You could also argue that searching for the best pellet is skill.
A gun that is not consistently accurate or throws 9s unexpectedly is hard to do well with. Rifles like this outdoors give misleading signals, prompting you to hold off for wind that wasn't there, etc.
You could also argue that searching for the best pellet is skill.
A gun that is not consistently accurate or throws 9s unexpectedly is hard to do well with. Rifles like this outdoors give misleading signals, prompting you to hold off for wind that wasn't there, etc.
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My target scoring plug just came in the mail - guess I need to turn a couple of them 9s into 10s -
248 sounds better than 246 LOL!
on the subject of gun/ shooter, I do believe a rifle that can consistently place the pellet in the same spot over and over will reduce the skill set needed -- -ES and SD become very important when the win is counted not by 250s but by how many Xs you've got
248 sounds better than 246 LOL!
on the subject of gun/ shooter, I do believe a rifle that can consistently place the pellet in the same spot over and over will reduce the skill set needed -- -ES and SD become very important when the win is counted not by 250s but by how many Xs you've got
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I have one, but I judged the Xs visually. If I saw a wisp of the black ring, I didn't count it. That part of the scoring process, I need some guidance.
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Yes the Plug can assist and also detract - your number - sometimes a magnifying glass can be a great help -
as with number 17 & 18 should have been scored as 9s
just saying -
Probably why some national matches are scored electronically?
CK
as with number 17 & 18 should have been scored as 9s
just saying -
Probably why some national matches are scored electronically?
CK
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I see 17 as a 10 with a plug, but you are right cK 18 is a 9 assuming that you are shooting a .177Cal jps2486
good catch cK
good catch cK
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Here is my card shoot on 12/5 outside at 25m at the monthly match at Phoenix Airgun Club, using the Orion Scoring System. Winds that day where 3-5 guest of 8-10 The rifle was my new RAW HM 1000X in .22. The bottom row scores are hard to see 21-X, 22-10, 23-10, 24-10, 25-X. Total for this card is 246 9x
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Good looking Card -that Orion optical/ electronic scoring system, the same used to score the extreme?
CK
CK
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Yes it is the same system used at the EBR. The winds where a quartering head wind right to left.
Thanks CK and Kim
Thanks CK and Kim
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Wow, you guys have been busy today ;-)
Good shooting "jsp2486", "CK", and Allen
Wow, told you guys I would be pulling up the rear. I shot 3 cards this afternoon.
236 w/ 4x...
236 w/ 4x...
235 w/ 4x...
I won't bore you with my low scoring cards ;-)
One thing for sure.....I'm consistent ;-) Consistently a poor shot ;-) LOL
Shot with my .177 Cricket rifle at 28 yds with 8.44 JSB's straight from the tin using my 14 rd magazine as I don't have a single shot tray for it yet. Also this was shot off bags, as I don't own a mechanical rest yet ;-) Sightron on 30 power......oh, and I don't have any wind flags either.
Excuses, excuses!!!!!LOL!
Good shooting "jsp2486", "CK", and Allen
Wow, told you guys I would be pulling up the rear. I shot 3 cards this afternoon.
236 w/ 4x...
236 w/ 4x...
235 w/ 4x...
I won't bore you with my low scoring cards ;-)
One thing for sure.....I'm consistent ;-) Consistently a poor shot ;-) LOL
Shot with my .177 Cricket rifle at 28 yds with 8.44 JSB's straight from the tin using my 14 rd magazine as I don't have a single shot tray for it yet. Also this was shot off bags, as I don't own a mechanical rest yet ;-) Sightron on 30 power......oh, and I don't have any wind flags either.
Excuses, excuses!!!!!LOL!
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Jimmy, I can't participate as I have a 2 day yardsale at Mr. Hardy's place. I will try on Sunday morn I guess if it itls calm....
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You Hang in there Jimmy! Get a good mechanical rest and at least two wind flags!
Your doing just fine! The 230s are excellent scores -
but a solid rest will bump you up for sure --
CK
Your doing just fine! The 230s are excellent scores -
but a solid rest will bump you up for sure --
CK
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Ck I found a nice mechanical front rest andci ordered 1 and Jimmy ordered one too. Trouble is they won't arr until Monday. Too late for the challange. I have prior obligations but got one card at
240 9 x
240 9 x
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Fantastic card! Jimmy sent me a photo of the front rest - looks really good. And a good rear rabbit ear bag rest for it.
also a bubble level for the scope - to eliminate Cant -
CK
also a bubble level for the scope - to eliminate Cant -
CK
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All my scopes have levels even though most of them I don't use in FT. I try to use them on the bench. I put a neat one on the Styer from my Daystate that I sold. It is a T that swings up high above the scope. I can just open my left eye and see it well without removing my eye or moving my head. I can' show a pic as I am writing this from my phone.
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Yes sir that's the one. Never got around to posting a pic.
Do you like it. ( Stupid question as it IS on your rifle... )
Thanks for the pic...
Do you like it. ( Stupid question as it IS on your rifle... )
Thanks for the pic...
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