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I've told many people, get someone in front of me, and I'm good at explaining the features of an airgun, to the point they might want to buy it. But as for MARKETING, (getting the information out to the general public), I'm not nearly as good. Case in point: These rifles are the best kept secret in the airgun world, and they shoot AT LEAST as good, if not BETTER than ANY of our very expensive rifles at TopGun-Airguns.

Each Saturday, a customer will come in, asking for an inexpensive rifle for ratting, plinking, etc.. And each Saturday a person walks out the door with a big smile on their face. They'll shoot a one hole group at my 20 yard range that looks like one single shot and love the rifle/scope combo.

So, what do I gotta do to get these in front of people that will test them, and report back on a forum? They've got EXCELLENT reviews from Rick Rehm, I just need some people interested in them. What kind of offer do I need to do, to get people to buy one and report back? A certain percentage discount? Put their review on my AirGun Scientist channel? Post your ideas below. Before you say, GIVE a rifle to someone, and they do a post on it, that just isn't worth it, or I'd do it.

So what is the brand: Zbroia, a European company known for quality rifles. Now they make 3.5 different variations of PCP rifles and bullpups. The Hortizia rifle, the Sapsan Bullpup, the Kozak semi-bullpup, and the KozakFC (Fully Compact/True Bullpup). All of these rifles have barrels made in-house that are of SUPERB quality! Like I said, one hole groups that often look like a single pellet. All but the Sapsan are only $895 or $985 and are available in .177 or .22. The Sapsan is a bit more, and available in .177, .22, .25, and .30 Cal.

Oh, and I forgot to mention that THESE RIFLES WILL NOT DOUBLE LOAD!!! This is REALLY nice when I am hunting, and I forget if I loaded a pellet into the chamber! Not even my very expensive rifles can make that claim!
To put the best bang for the buck, I top it off with the Element Helix FFP 6-24x. These scopes are FANTASTIC and a very good price!

Right now, until Tuesday evening, we are offering our 10% coupon off EVERYTHING! BTW, This is the day to get that Carette Compressor and save over $200!!!

The suppressor shown is our in-house, made in USA suppressor called the Air Control. It is 2.7 dB quieter than the quietest suppressors available. (3 dB is a factor of 2x).

The Kozak Gen 2 are $989.95 . The Helix is $480 for a total of either 1469.95 - 10% Memorial Coupon ( TGAG10% ) = $1322.96
The Kozak Gen 1 are only $874.99. The Helix is $480 for a total of either 1354.99 - 10% Memorial Coupon ( TGAG10% ) = $1219.49


That's the price of a laser combo!

All Zbroia can be found here: https://www.topgun-airguns.com/?s=Zbroia&post_type=product
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thammer said:
And they look like they are near double the price. Not just the performance.
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TBH, they are. I am the importer, and I mis-priced them. I didn't account for distribution pricing. I am the North & South American importer, and priced the retail price at wholesale. That saves you 25-30% buying them direct from me.
 
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TopGun-Airguns said:
I've told many people, get someone in front of me, and I'm good at explaining the features of an airgun, to the point they might want to buy it. But as for MARKETING, (getting the information out to the general public), I'm not nearly as good. Case in point: These rifles are the best kept secret in the airgun world, and they shoot AT LEAST as good, if not BETTER than ANY of our very expensive rifles at TopGun-Airguns.

Each Saturday, a customer will come in, asking for an inexpensive rifle for ratting, plinking, etc.. And each Saturday a person walks out the door with a big smile on their face. They'll shoot a one hole group at my 20 yard range that looks like one single shot and love the rifle/scope combo.

So, what do I gotta do to get these in front of people that will test them, and report back on a forum? They've got EXCELLENT reviews from Rick Rehm, I just need some people interested in them. What kind of offer do I need to do, to get people to buy one and report back? A certain percentage discount? Put their review on my AirGun Scientist channel? Post your ideas below. Before you say, GIVE a rifle to someone, and they do a post on it, that just isn't worth it, or I'd do it.

So what is the brand: Zbroia, a European company known for quality rifles. Now they make 3.5 different variations of PCP rifles and bullpups. The Hortizia rifle, the Sapsan Bullpup, the Kozak semi-bullpup, and the KozakFC (Fully Compact/True Bullpup). All of these rifles have barrels made in-house that are of SUPERB quality! Like I said, one hole groups that often look like a single pellet. All but the Sapsan are only $895 or $985 and are available in .177 or .22. The Sapsan is a bit more, and available in .177, .22, .25, and .30 Cal.

Oh, and I forgot to mention that THESE RIFLES WILL NOT DOUBLE LOAD!!! This is REALLY nice when I am hunting, and I forget if I loaded a pellet into the chamber! Not even my very expensive rifles can make that claim!
To put the best bang for the buck, I top it off with the Element Helix FFP 6-24x. These scopes are FANTASTIC and a very good price!

Right now, until Tuesday evening, we are offering our 10% coupon off EVERYTHING! BTW, This is the day to get that Carette Compressor and save over $200!!!

The suppressor shown is our in-house, made in USA suppressor called the Air Control. It is 2.7 dB quieter than the quietest suppressors available. (3 dB is a factor of 2x).

The Kozak Gen 2 are $989.95 . The Helix is $480 for a total of either 1469.95 - 10% Memorial Coupon ( TGAG10% ) = $1322.96
The Kozak Gen 1 are only $874.99. The Helix is $480 for a total of either 1354.99 - 10% Memorial Coupon ( TGAG10% ) = $1219.49


That's the price of a laser combo!

All Zbroia can be found here: https://www.topgun-airguns.com/?s=Zbroia&post_type=product
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When you say your suppressor is 2.7db quieter than the quietest suppressor made, which suppressor are you comparing it to?


There are some very large moderators which I doubt can be exceeded by something of this size but I could be wrong. If it truly is quieter than ANY suppressor made in the world right now, I'll pick one up.
 
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When you say your suppressor is 2.7db quieter than the quietest suppressor made, which suppressor are you comparing it to?


There are some very large moderators which I doubt can be exceeded by something of this size but I could be wrong. If it truly is quieter than ANY suppressor made in the world right now, I'll pick one up.
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The AIR CONTROL suppressor is 2.7 dB quieter than suppressor of equivalent size. I never should have written "It is 2.7 dB quieter than the quietest suppressors available." as how would I know what the ABSOLUTE quietest suppressor in all the world! (I will edit that comment in the original post).

I am not trying to be sneaky, but I never liked advertisements that name a competitor directly (like a Wendy's commercial saying they are better than Burger King). So, that's about as much as I'd like to say publicly as to whom to compare it. Currently we've tested them in .22 and they are awesome. We are working on making our .25 and .30 significantly quieter than our competitors before releasing to the public. I've got prototypes that are super quiet, but we want them to be SIGNIFICANTLY quieter that the others, not just as quiet. So, we want to be QUIETER AND MADE HERE IN THE USA!
 
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The AIR CONTROL suppressor is 2.7 dB quieter than suppressor of equivalent size. I never should have written "It is 2.7 dB quieter than the quietest suppressors available." as how would I know what the ABSOLUTE quietest suppressor in all the world! (I will edit that comment in the original post).

I am not trying to be sneaky, but I never liked advertisements that name a competitor directly (like a Wendy's commercial saying they are better than Burger King). So, that's about as much as I'd like to say publicly as to whom to compare it. Currently we've tested them in .22 and they are awesome. We are working on making our .25 and .30 significantly quieter than our competitors before releasing to the public. I've got prototypes that are super quiet, but we want them to be SIGNIFICANTLY quieter that the others, not just as quiet. So, we want to be QUIETER AND MADE HERE IN THE USA!
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Thank you for the clarification. Recently, a manufacturer and I talked about one of their new suppressors. They even provided a comparison with some major brands, and it performed better than those. I got a sample and planned to do a review, but it turned out not to be quieter than my current unit that is shorter but slightly larger diameter. So I am careful about claims. That suppressor IS a good one and I can recommend it, but I will mod it with additional damping material to change the pitch. (It is a GREAT value.)
 
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I’ve looked at them a few times myself. Nice looking guns and reasonably priced. Not a lot of info or reviews online unfortunately. Is there parts support and oring list atleast?

I really dig the sapsan myself. It’s 1400 though and puts in the range with some amazing stuff. That Hortitsia is a nice looking tradition style. That 330mm would make one heck of a woods walker.

Ideally you need some active/respectable members to review them on here. I go to the forums for info/reviews before YouTube. In my opinion is the YT videos can be sugar coated.
 
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when i shot long range rifle and action pistol sports we would often gravitate to and seek out products that excelled in credible competitions. I've seen this concept and practice hold true in other sporting faculties as well.

when I reflect on my purchases, more than a few that i scraped and saved for were driven by items that demonstrated excellence in real use.

perhaps support a few qualified individuals, follow and promote their success in your website and advertising etc.

i wish you great fortune in your effort.
 
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Im not trying to be a hatemonger but pretty much every manufacture boasts the next best gun without honest reviews and trials this brand might be the next big thing butt then it might not. In my opinion the only way to prove it is through donating a few to be tested. I would like to see a from factory box like i would get unbocing and test. That is the only way to boast one hole groups. In my opinion for every gun to produce that would be incredibe
 
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