Would Rather See Lighter Rifles.

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Nutcracker

Nutcracker

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Mercado's post on PCP manufactures upping their game got me to thinking. I would like to see them Lower their game, but I mean lower weight. There is some manufactures making powerful PCPs in the 6 pound class & those are the only ones I will even consider purchasing from now on. I am sure I am not alone, all of us are not bench shooters or able to or want to hunt off the hood of our pickup. I recently went through all my rifles and sold or gave away anything that was over 6 pounds naked. A year ago, I made the silly mistake of buying a great pcp that weighed 7.5 pounds . I scoped it up and headed to the mountains for a week. Glad I took my Wildcat Compact along as well. Hunted the first day with this anchor over my shoulder, After that is hung on the wall. It actually hung on the wall of my cabin for several months, I forgot about it. I never hunted it with again. I am seeing new models that look wonderful and have some neat features & stuff, but weigh 7 plus pounds. Thanks God, for my Wildcat, Streamline, Dreamline Compact & my new Impact Compact. I will go one step father, If I had to use it hunting, I would not take the best 7+ pound pcp rifle made if they gave it to me. 6 pound limit 4 me & would prefer lighter. Looking forward to the new AGT that is supposed to weigh less than 6 pound.
 
One of the things I have against my BSA Lonestar is that it weighs at least 7.5 pounds before adding in scope and sling weight. A safari sling helps with the weight issue. The Hawke Nite Eye scope is also too heavy. Pick up a Leupold scope and then pick up a Hawke scope and see what I mean. Carbon fiber stocks and lighter metal alloys should be the norm at the prices the high end PCP's go for and 6 pounds is a reasonable maximum weight. Also, 4 pounds is a reasonable weight for a .22 LR bolt gun. My CZ 452 weighs about 6 pounds and it's built like a tank, far stronger than it has to be. At a PD town, my Lonestar spends a lot of its time propped up on my shooting sticks while I glass the area, due to its weight. Leupold scopes are not just among the lightest you can get, but also the most recoil resistant. Light weight does not have to mean weak. I think PCP's are too heavy because people were used to overweight springers and people were accepting of PCP's weighing about the same. Like Nutcracker, I am not buying any more PCP's until the weight comes way down. Being heavy is not such a big deal on a target rifle, but weight reduction should be a top priority on a hunting PCP.
 
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yep .. thats why my marauder P has about 10X more kills under its belt than anything else i got .. targets and going for the glory shot at 150y with a 1000$ scope on a gun that looks like its from alien planet and a 50$ tin of specialty pellets is one thing, serious work is another, it sure is .. when fluffy but is ruining hours of work in your garden the P is gonna light his rear up .. no time for fancy bs ..
 
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Totally agree. I'm 65 yo, am 5'5, weigh 120#, (this is the most I ever weighed , and very weak. For most my life, I could lift my weight. Young guys will find out, with age, your muscles turn to mush. I own 4 Artemis P15's (one in each caliber, 2 in .25). for that very reason. They are reasonably accurate. Even I can carry, hold up and shoot them. I too am looking forward to the AGT. I had an Uragan .30 but sold it even though it shot like a laser. I was just too much for me.
 
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It's amazing what a pound or two makes when carrying one around for a while. Couldn't believe the difference in the weight of my Marauder after getting the aluminum air tube from Jsar a few years back, and I already had the synthetic stock. If manufacturers would use the high-strength aluminum tubing for 3000 psi fills, and titanium for higher fill pressures, many of our rifles would be easier to carry. I'm 66 now with a destroyed lower spine so I feel it even more than many, but it doesn't have to be that way. Huntsman Revere is case in point.
 
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Until the last 12 months or so, my 11 pound PCP rifles did not bother me. But, time marches on, and age and health conditions change. I'm 71, and have issues in both my rotator cuff and elbow joint, neither of which is going to improve. It's not bad if I don't over exert, but lifting these heavy rifles has become a bit of an issue. As much as I love my RAW, HW100, Veteran, etc., they are all heavy, given my growing limitation. So, I totally agree with the attraction of a lighter rifle, and will be looking for at least one lighter weight option for my informal target and backyard pesting needs. Power and shot count are not high priorities. I'm thinking that a Daystate Revere might be a good candidate, and I'm sure there are others. 
 
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I would love to see a light weight traditional PCP. I love my Wolverine with its Hawke scope. But sometimes when shooting it I say to myself this is too heavy and long!!!
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A Daystate Huntsman, Revere or FX Dreamline Classic would suit your needs. Traditional style, beautifully made, accurate, and light They won't break the bank either.
 
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