HW/Weihrauch Williams sights - FP-GR fit issue

[specie]

There's a lot to be said for that...I love those too!
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A sporting peep is a different animal than a match diopter though...I appreciate the small size, lignt weight, versatile standard-size eyepiece thread, and unobstructed view you get with the Williams sights. But there's an open market niche for a similar airgun-friendly, dovetail-mounted peep that's sturdier and more thoughtfully detailed. So many terrific compact aperture sights have been made over the years - by Williams, Redfield, Lyman, Marbles, Vaver, Parker-Hale, and many more - it's odd that this should be so.

Yes, so true...and also the FP-AG will fit the FWB 11.3 dovetail and sometimes (?) even the older 13mm HW dovetail, and the GR is required if using the Lyman 17AEU front sight to replace the hard-to-find original HW front sight used on the earlier guns.

 

[jkingrph]

I have an older Williams sight on my FWB 124d. I got it from Beemans back in the mid 1970's. It does not have that adjustable "gib" on the right side that is tightened by those two tiny screws. It taps onto the dovetail snugly then has a set screw to secure, after removing the elevation slide. I think it is more secure and sturdy than the current models which fit a lot of different size dovetails.

 

[MDriskill]

I have an older Williams sight on my FWB 124d. I got it from Beemans back in the mid 1970's. It does not have that adjustable "gib" on the right side that is tightened by those two tiny screws. It taps onto the dovetail snugly then has a set screw to secure, after removing the elevation slide. I think it is more secure and sturdy than the current models which fit a lot of different size dovetails.

Forgive my poor explaining! Pic shows the "gib screw" on a Williams sight. Its job is to keep the adjuster arm from wiggling about, and it must be loosened and re-tightened any time you change the elevation setting. On the sights I have, it takes a different size screwdriver bit than the flush screw adjusters - a small yet annoying thing, ha. Back in the day, Williams made a knurled finger-knob gib screw, which would be cool on a "TK" sight like this one at least.

I am also lucky to have some of the old Williams sights with fixed dovetails! Yes, much sturdier and simpler sans the dinky sliding bar thing. ARH offered six different ones; sport and target versions to fit FWB, Diana, and the old 13mm HW rails. There was a recent thread on those here (scroll down to post #8).

HW/Weihrauch - Your grandpa's HW 30

I recently acquired a pre-Beeman iteration of the classic HW 30, and thought a comparison to Beeman's equally classic evolution of the design - the "Gary Goudy stock" R7 - might be of interest. The current HW 30 has of course evolved beyond either of these in some details. I believe the HW 30...

www.airgunnation.com

 

[Wadcutter]

Williams should carry these knurled knobs on their site, or maybe a modern slimmed down version.