Why the L are the gun makers going to 300 bar fills

[indubitably]

Im sure the larger calibre guns will go through more air and would appreciate the added shots from more air contained in the same volume but higher atmosphere fill.

The more is better might be fine in theory and sell but daily use will be a personal choice

 

[Removed]

More shots from a smaller package

 

[Dairyboy]

Like others have stated it's absolutely not necessary at all but if needed it's there. I usually only fill my guns to 220bar even if there a 250bar fill. Just don't see the need to. My 6.0L F250s Speedometer goes to 100mph but I don't need to drive that fast so im not using it to full potential. But if I need to go that fast I could. 

 

[oldsparky]

I am also conservative filling my guns and my tank, to avoid failures. However if a compressor manufacture sells a compressor rated for 4500 psi that compressor should be capable maintaining that pressure over and over. Also if a airgun manufacture advertises their gun fill to 300 bar it should be capable of those pressures every time. 

 

[Guest]

Literally sitting here right now listening to the thump of the LC-110 filling my Ninja 90 cu-in and going -- "But... why are these people driving under the speed limit?"

It's all about temperature and duty cycle not so much pressure. I've got two 90 cu-in Ninja tanks sitting at 4500 PSI.

I fill my Concept Lite to 250 bar and by the time it settles down it's around 230 bar. Good enough.

 

[Yo]

I really feel good buying guns from manufactures who have set their BAR HIGHER with very HIGH BAR fill capacities even if I only fill them to 207BAR MAX (3000psi max) even if they can go up to 5000psi like my Hubens for example because they really MUST BE using SUPER SEALS AND O-RINGS to make them engineered to withstand that constant higher than the norm fill pressures. Added piece of mind on no leak driving way way way under the speed limit. WAY LESS wear and stress on the engine and trans and saves gas too. Same with my compressors fill only to 4000psi MAX since that extra also 500psi OOMPH will kill the compressor or at least shorten its lifespan. No matter how many different compressors I own 4000psi is max i will push any one of them to fill my 10 tanks.

Edited NO!!! 12 tanks. 2 are UK cheapies not DOT but I got lots compressors anyway. Was told these have 30 year lifespan too at almost 1/4 the price compared with buying a tank from a US dealer.

 

[Guest]

If 4500 PSI is too much... what if ... 4000 PSI is too much. Should I only do 250 bar in a compressor rated for 310 bar? We should discuss at a bar how many bars are too many bars, and barring that, bar not enough bars and too many bars.

 

[L.Leon]

On my Hatsan Lightning compressor I’m only filling my SCBAs to 4000 psi. I feel that compressor works extra hard for those last 500 psi. Which I don’t truly get once the bottles cool down to 4300 or so psi. So no 300 bar guns for me.

 

[Yo]

EmBARking on a compressor journey... Fill to whatever BAR you want...to each his own so long their compressor doesn't get fuBAR and BARf and end up BARely running. Sounds like time to hit the BAR just don't wanna get BARred. since you just raised the debate BAR and I'm hungry for a Snickers BAR since its too late for a BARbeque and bring a piece of reBAR with you in case we run into people we hadn't BARgained for unless you wanna kick some butt BARe handed and we end up behind BARs unless theres an emBARarassing pending disBARment of the public defender since the male BARbie boy lawyer changed his mind on BARtering his services for yours. 

 

[orion]

It's an improvement, natural evolution and as many have said already you don't have to fill at 300 bars but you have the option to do so if you want. When I'm shooting at home I fill at 250 but when going out hunting I fill to 275/280 to go an entire day without refilling.... Going back to the car sucks. 

But imagine a maker releasing the next version of their gun, are they going to reduce the pressure if they have the wat to give you more pressure? That's what I mean about natural evolution, that's why we have PCP and we can do today what just few years ago was just a dream... 

 

[Guest]

Oh yo... Yo; 275 bar is the answer... yo.

 

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[Yo]

275.790292 BAR.

B+

Someone like Shoebox should step up and be resurrected and take back the niche market with a new 6000psi compressor so everyone can fill their tanks to 4500psi. 

 

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[Saltlake58]

I've been using the Ninja 90 ci tanks with 3000 psi regulators on the tanks. I fill to 4500 (what the gauge says is 4500) usually cools to 4200 or something like that. Fill my guns up to 3000 psi, If I'm on a long shooting session, I'll tether the tank and I can shoot for a couple hours. Works for me. Would 4350 PSI be nice, yes, but I really don't need it yet. Maybe when I get to big bore, but not today

 

[indubitably]

Are there reports of exploding carbon high pressure reservoirs? I know of Scuba tank dangers, but how vulnerable are the Carbon wrapped tanks?

 

[dens228]

I have a 300 bar bottle and fill it to about 280. Never had a problem, gives me another mag of shooting over a 250 filled to 240 or so.

 

[3Crows]

It is shot count. And larger calibers need more air to achieve the shot count that is the expectation at the energy levels that hunters, pesters, walk about plinkers and even bench shooters want now and then there is the slug thing.

 

[DonEnzone]

Are there reports of exploding carbon high pressure reservoirs? I know of Scuba tank dangers, but how vulnerable are the Carbon wrapped tanks?

If you have them tested every 5 years like you should... they should be perfectly safe. People play paintball all over the world every single day, most of them with CF bottles at 300 bar. It's extremely rare to find reports of tanks exploding. And what little there is to find is usually because of user error (using an old or damaged tank, using oil on o-rings instead of silicon grease, etc)