Other Why so many .25 cal. for sale?

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DeanB said:
Maybe some people arent as rich as you are, but pretty sure Charlie has been in this longer then most people and knows what he speaks. Cost is a factor in everything we do, be it driving, recreation whatever. If you have money to burn then it probably doesnt matter to you but for some people it does matter and the reason they are in this sport is none of our concern only theirs.
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$13 per thousand rounds in this hobby is a pittance regardless of how wealthy you are.

$13 won't even cover the cost differential between one tin of JSB and H&N Baracuda.

10,000 rounds and you would have the price of a low end Gamo break barrel

100,000 rounds and you are at the low end price of the used FX Impact.

250,000 rounds and a Daystate Black Wolf is equivalent.
 
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I suspect the general underperformance of .25 in the competitive scene may have something to do with it. Most of the ammo developments seem to be focused on .30 as well, with some trickle down to .25 shortly after. If there were energy limitations in 100 yard benchrest, .25 may make a comeback.

I still enjoy my .25s
 
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I'll be one to admit that I went from Taipan Veteran .22 to Taipan Veteran .25 "just because". The vast majority of my shots are on chipmunks and squirrels within 35m. And for that, the .22 is more than enough. However, in the 4 years I owned the .22, I just couldn't seem to get the .25 out of my mind. I bought the .25 last year thinking that I will still use the .22 more often, but after getting it, I wanted to shoot just the .25 so I sold the .22 gun.

I also added a Taipan Veteran Short also in .25 caliber. I have it tuned to 25 FPE and gets 90 shots on the reg. One thing I really like about the .25 is at moderate powers and with comparable FPE with a .22, the .25 is just so efficient. Yes, if you tune a .25 to the same power as a .22, with the available projectiles, the .25 will have a more curved trajectory. In my use case though, I'm always using a rangefinder if I don't already know the distance so I really don't find it an issue. Again, this is with a moderate tune. I've never tried it but I'm sure everything is different with a max power tune.

On squirrels, one thing I notice is that on chest shots, the .25 kills noticeably faster than the .22 caliber. In the years I owned the .22, I mostly did headshots with great success... I still go for headshots with the .25 but I'm now more likely to go for a chest shot with the bigger caliber.
 
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NotCutleryLover said:
I suspect the general underperformance of .25 in the competitive scene may have something to do with it. Most of the ammo developments seem to be focused on .30 as well, with some trickle down to .25 shortly after. If there were energy limitations in 100 yard benchrest, .25 may make a comeback.

I still enjoy my .25s
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This fellow AGN member would beg to difer and he did beat out all the .30s with his .25 and his ballistic reasoning is sound..

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I have three 25s but only two are working at the moment. I hope to get some time to address the third soon. My first was an Avenger. I still have it and shoot it occasionally but after getting a P35 in 25 I hardly shoot the Avenger. It is so LONG. I discovered I really prefer bullpups. The first pellet I found that my P35 in 25 shot well was the H&N FTT which only weighs 20 grains. I decreased the regulator to keep them under 900 fps and shot 18 squirrels with it that first year of use. FPE was only about 32 but squirrels did not seem to care. The only ones that ran at all took a chest shot that ended up behind a rear leg. Probably only got one lung. And they did not go far. They and one shoulder to shoulder shot were the only ones where the pellet did not exit. All nice clean kills. But then I got my P35-22 and shot 10 with it tuned to about 32 fpe. Not one of them ran at all. All DRT. There were no lengthwise shots but with 30 fpe or so I am quite confident in a 22. The P35-25 is currently tuned to about 47 fpe for bigger pests like armadillos and small raccoons. I took one with a head shot and it was DRT. The 25 I am working on is a P35X I am hoping to get mid 50s from. Have to get it working first.

25 caliber pellets tend to cost more but it is not going to put me in the poor house to shoot mine. They also use up air quicker and tend to be noisier. I have the P35X barrel on the P35 right now and it is quite accurate. I need to give it some more time and see if I can't wring a 200 out of it. But I also have a bullshark in 22 that seems to have potential, even with cheap old Crosman pellets. I don't see anything wrong with 25s but it's a little cheaper and easier to feed 22s and 177s. Got some pellets to try in my one 177 too.

For small game I really do not think 25s are necessary or even add much. They certainly have worked well for me but so has the one higher powered 22 I've tried. I have two other higher powered 22s I need to give a chance on squirrels too. It's nice to have plenty of choices. I see 25s as most useful for low end bigger game up to coyote. But a 25 tuned down into the 30s is a sweet small game gun too, it might be a tad overkill but it works. If you are in wide open spaces even a much higher tuned 25 is going to be very effective.
 
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JimT66 said:
Is that chassis system difficult to install Avator?
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Nope.. drop in.. no modding needed. Just make sure you get the right one for your gun. There are 2 versions.
I'm also looking into getting second long tube to replace the short lower one. That will not affect the kit. Just unscrew the lower tube and screw on the longer one.
 
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I have two .25s, one being one of my favorite Airgun. To be honest though it would be so even if it was a .22 or .30 caliber because of the guy that built it for me. Very special to me. I do enjoy the .25, I use it for smaller game often. I mostly own .30 calibers with different tunes for different purposes. That’s probably my favorite caliber. My RTI P-2 .25 is with me all the time in my jeep now that I think about it. lol.
 
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I am punching paper rings only, shooting slugs for that game would be a big waste of effort and money.
I am using my .25 for 100 meters BR, and comparing to my other .22 gun which can perform in a same MOA precision up to 70-80 meters only. These with pellets widely available off the shelf.
The pellets are the limitation.
If we would be looking for best overall amo performance at these 100 meter distance,
the .30 cal heavy pellets or .22 heaviest slugs wins.
In the eyes of a competition shooter. And most of the past .25 cal buyers chasing now the latest and greatest.
For me, I still like the .25 as a good walk around platform.
 
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As for why so many for sale i would say a combination of things. Some may have got them and realized a smaller caliber fits thier backyard shooting needs more adequately or they may just be on setting out to try a different platform. I personally don't see the pellet cost difference being a problem, but not everyone looks at things through the same eyes.

Most of my guns are .22, have a few .25 and I think I have I still have a .177, haven't shot it in a long time. I much prefer shooting .25 and majority of the purchases I've been looking at making lately are .25. That's just my personal preference. 25 is great all around and ammo is reasonable enough to fit my pesting and backyard target needs. I don't own a .30, but do have higher caliber that are definitely not backyard friendly, well that actually depends on the backyard lol. I still very rarely shoot my .510 in the backyard for testing, not for plinking at all, that was bought for a specifically for hunting.

It's a combination of personal preference and what your intentions are with the gun that will be the deciding factor. For me, if there are the same 2 guns and the option is .22 or .25 I would likely go with the .25, that being said I've bought 3 .22's in the last month or 2 so who knows lol

I realize how contradicting the last statement is, so I guess a gotta get another .25 soon to balance the scales 🤣 😂 🤣
 
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Avator said:
Nope.. drop in.. no modding needed. Just make sure you get the right one for your gun. There are 2 versions.
I'm also looking into getting second long tube to replace the short lower one. That will not affect the kit. Just unscrew the lower tube and screw on the longer one.
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That tube replacement, is it for the Avenger 1st model, before Avenge x?
 
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Rabbit problems again, back to digging holes under my barn foundation. Three diggers down yesterday. Body shots through the shoulder with my M-Rod Cobra. It is tuned for 54 fpe with the .25 Hades. Knocks them over dead, no need for tricky head shots. A .25, at least for smaller game and pests, no need for head shots, just put the pellet in the boiler room and lights out for the diggers. I would put up a pic but I think that is against the rules.
 
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