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boscoebrea

boscoebrea

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try to answer questions,wouldn't that be called guessing?Does guessing really help? I guess it if your guess is the right one,I am just guessing because it could be wrong .My guess is the person guessing just wants to be to have the freedom to guess.Why guess,lookit it up...."Just the facts, ma'am":ROFLMAO:
 
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People often exhibit the effect to a great degree when referencing it, but if one reflects, The Dunning Kruger Effect does explain much human behavior.

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It would be interesting to hear why people do post. I believe that I post with the intention to try to help someone with reason and evidence.

One additional motivation is that I perceive many competent and informed members who I hope will correct where I am wrong.
 
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Normkel said:
People often exhibit the effect to a great degree when referencing it, but if one reflects, The Dunning Kruger Effect does explain much human behavior.

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It would be interesting to hear why people do post. I believe that I post with the intention to try to help someone with reason and evidence.

One additional motivation is that I perceive many competent and informed members who I hope will correct where I am wrong.
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I've been referencing the D-K research for years.

My other favorite is pointing out that 50% of the population is below median intelligence. And then have someone claim that isn't true.
 
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I've been referencing the D-K research for years.

My other favorite is pointing out that 50% of the population is below median intelligence. And then have someone claim that isn't true.
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Do you agree that the puzzle piece that is missing is that we need to be open to being corrected and to calling out what appears to be invalid?

IMO, having people agree with me isn't of much value because I proceed on the basis that I am correct. Having people describe and justify how they disagree with me is very valuable because that demonstrates how I can change/improve.
 
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Do you agree that the puzzle piece that is missing is that we need to be open to being corrected and to calling out what appears to be invalid?

IMO, having people agree with me isn't of much value because I proceed on the basis that I am correct. Having people describe and justify how they disagree with me is very valuable because that demonstrates how I can change/improve.
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No problem there. Evidence is the important factor. D-K research identified several causation and one was that people refuse to accept contrary evidence once they believe something.

As my father taught me, you do not learn from success. Being wrong and accepting the correction falls into the same category.
 
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Normkel said:
People often exhibit the effect to a great degree when referencing it, but if one reflects, The Dunning Kruger Effect does explain much human behavior...
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I'd never seen that Dunning-Kruger Club graph before, it's a keeper, thanks for posting it.

I've always thought that one of life's hardest lessons occurs when we passionately believe in something.
Believe in it so much we'd stake our life on it without hesitation.
Only to discover later that we were mistaken.

It happens all the time for various reasons. Often because we have believed the opinions of other misinformed people and then incorporated those opinions into our world view until we believed them to be own trusted opinions. Politics, advertisements, different religions, selective and biased reporting from media and from our acquaintances and family all make us believe things which are verifiably false under any reasonable independent analysis.

The only funny thing about the situation is that it is so easy to spot these self-delusional tendencies in others, but not always so easy to recognize it in ourselves.

JP
 
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I don’t know OP, but your guess is as good as mine! :ROFLMAO:

The thing to remember here is that this is a discussion forum. A lot of people are here to discuss, and that includes conjecture. What you as a reader have to do is learn to sift through the crap and find the truth. LOTS of reading, comparing data, and finding those people who ARE educated and CAN be trusted (not just shills with a popular YT channel) all go a long way to learning what’s true and what’s not. In addition to your own testing and research, of course. It’s all part of what makes the hobby/sport fun! :)
 
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boscoebrea said:
I guess then ,it is the poster's responsibility to sift through the BS and find the truth as he or she sees fit.My post got turned a bit,put that was good as it opened up some points I never thought of.The ego is a trip.:eek:
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That sifting for those new to the hobby is a bit problematic. They don't have the basic information to know what is or is not good advice.
 
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