Why couldn't the barrel housings and liners be all 1 size. Liner innards be sized appropriately. Then $100 liners instead of $400. Too thick for the twist? Then just give me the ST,
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While we're on FX liners
- Thread starter Keyman62421
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Whoa Nelly! The liners are $400??!!
If that’s the case my obvious solution is buy LW blanks pay buddy $15 bucks to turn it & drop it in. I was his favorite bouncer & he, a Gunsmith/FFL holder got me into air guns plus I get him bar stock at prices he can’t beat. I can get most anything tooling or instrumentation at prices most can’t beat except the people selling that don’t know what they’re getting rid of. Just got 3rd Starrett that’s MSRP is WAY over the $12.00 I paid.
Yeah I’m a bargain hunter. Condor, FX Elite. Easy & less than $200 or liners that are $400? Really? I had no idea so much for the liners.
If that’s the case my obvious solution is buy LW blanks pay buddy $15 bucks to turn it & drop it in. I was his favorite bouncer & he, a Gunsmith/FFL holder got me into air guns plus I get him bar stock at prices he can’t beat. I can get most anything tooling or instrumentation at prices most can’t beat except the people selling that don’t know what they’re getting rid of. Just got 3rd Starrett that’s MSRP is WAY over the $12.00 I paid.
Yeah I’m a bargain hunter. Condor, FX Elite. Easy & less than $200 or liners that are $400? Really? I had no idea so much for the liners.
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I think he was just referring to the cost of a whole new barrel (to change to a different caliber), which cost c.$400.00
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When they manufaktur the liner, the wall thicknes can probably not be to thick. That is why a .177 wil have smaller outer diameter than a .25.
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and I doubt the custom machine on which they are made and the research cost a penny less than $3 million.
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OK,Whoa!
Those of you who don't own Impacts, possibly don't know that to change calibers you must buy barrel, liner and probe kit. $400
While if made like i suggested, liner and probe only. But since breach and orifice are
in barrel assy, probably not feasible.
Those of you who don't own Impacts, possibly don't know that to change calibers you must buy barrel, liner and probe kit. $400
While if made like i suggested, liner and probe only. But since breach and orifice are
in barrel assy, probably not feasible.
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Hey Bob,
I’m asking if I can get a master barrel that takes FX liners for my FX Elite that has interchangeable barrels that drop in & held dead tight by 4 set screws V’d 2 on each side, top of receiver.
I don’t know if price of one master & a bunch of liners would be worth it or just get a few more dedicated barrels. I’m interested in what they come out with, especially various twist rates for slugs. But I can also get various barrels in almost any length or twist I want for Elite or Condor.
I guess what I should be asking besides price of liners & master that holds them is does the master barrel limit you to the length of 500-700mm’s?
I have unlimited air. I’m not hunting in brush but if I do I have shorter dedicated air guns. I always preferred longer efficient barrel PCP’s but be it 500,600,700mm liners I’m also comparing free floated to tensioned.
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So a question for you Sir is would you prefer FX had kept The Elite or is the new system better? Direct flow through bolt on Elite & TP for liners.
I know lots of guys that wish The Tarantula & Elite we’re still made. Just curious what y’all think.
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Yeah we know that, same as crown, streamline (I think), dreamline. How about the liner retainers on both ends? Like mentioned the liners probably need to be a certain thickness to work with the machine to press the liner with rifling. Can't have one size that does all calibers unfortunately.
The outer sleeve is the only thing that could possibly be interchangeable between calibers.
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Assuming if the outer sleeve that the liner sits in was larger for say a 30cal, could different size bushing/o rings be used?
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I doubt all their guns, no limits mounts, mags, cost 1/4 of what they are selling for. It's fx. All their products are expensive.
Now on topic. Op is referring to why can't f make all liner in caliber same so we can buy .177/.22/.25/.30 liner and put in our gun instead of paying $400 to switch cal. Makes sense but fx wants more money duh. By making each liner different size they can force the costumers to pay full price to switch. Clever idea. That's why I stick to only one cal.
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The outer sleeve is the same, otherwise a .30 cal barrel kit wouldnt fit in a .25 impact etc. But possibly using a .30 barrel kit with different sized bushing or orings could work. But would need to be basically perfect so everything lines up right.
Barrel sleeve and brass barrel inlet are all the same OD.
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Why then, can you buy LW barrels for $112? A little machining to fit the receiver and cut/crown the end is all that's necessry. I have an FX rifle with the teensy-weensy barrel and it shoots good, but I also have air rifles with LW barrels that shoot just as good and have some meat in them for stability. Don't get me wrong, the FX system is a good idea for those that want interchangeability, but how many use that feature?
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Lw barrels are great I have one myself, but they certainly aren't trying new things every year. With new machines to be bought, constant r and d with new twist rates etc. They are also a much bigger and older company with assumingly everything payed off. I get your point its expensive, this is an expensive hobby no doubt.
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There is a video on YT made years ago showing the liner being crimped, it's basically adapted from a pipe crimping machine.
Why standardise and make it easy for the consumer to spend less? it's an exceptional business model and one to be proud of.
Why standardise and make it easy for the consumer to spend less? it's an exceptional business model and one to be proud of.
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Having FXusa around and the availability to buy basically any part with a phone call is part of the same business model. Parts at basically cost! Yeah you're right Mark it is exceptional. Wish all other manufacturers supported the sport so much.
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