I saw these posts and made me want to go shoot one of my older builds. Glad I did, it has developed a leak and is underpowered. Fun little woods walker pumper.
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Function check on a new to me S&W 77A.
Everything works as intended, and velocity is on par with published figures. Now to try to make it better.......
Trigger is kinda stiff, and the pump cup is not adjusted to 0 head space on the valve. Other than that, I like it quite a bit.
Everything works as intended, and velocity is on par with published figures. Now to try to make it better.......
Trigger is kinda stiff, and the pump cup is not adjusted to 0 head space on the valve. Other than that, I like it quite a bit.
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I shot the 55 Bluestreak offhand at thirty yards, and it lured me into a shoot.
First shot went right through the Rat, which I expected to hit, but it cleared the bullseye plate which I didn't expect.
So I was like OK lets see what you got.
First shot on the Crazy Eights,, 'hit"
Then reality sets in, and I'm back on the bench with it..
I shot the 65 last week, and it scarcly misses as well.
Sheridan's are just impressive lil guns.
First shot went right through the Rat, which I expected to hit, but it cleared the bullseye plate which I didn't expect.
So I was like OK lets see what you got.
First shot on the Crazy Eights,, 'hit"
Then reality sets in, and I'm back on the bench with it..
I shot the 65 last week, and it scarcly misses as well.
Sheridan's are just impressive lil guns.
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Those are some nice pumpers!!
I was shooting my Sharp Innova Deluxe .22 yesterday. (The one on the bottom). It's the easiest pumper to pump of any that I've owned over the years, and the highest velocity per pump.
The Crosman 1400 .22 in the middle is just behind it in power, and is equally accurate.
I sold the Sheridan model A, (top of pic). I customized all of them.
Have Fun!!
I was shooting my Sharp Innova Deluxe .22 yesterday. (The one on the bottom). It's the easiest pumper to pump of any that I've owned over the years, and the highest velocity per pump.
The Crosman 1400 .22 in the middle is just behind it in power, and is equally accurate.
I sold the Sheridan model A, (top of pic). I customized all of them.
Have Fun!!
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That is without a doubt, the best looking Crosman 1400 I have ever laid eyes on.
Nice rifles sir!
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WOW. I wish my own 392 (or 397, both of them s-models, with the s meaning synthetic, unfortunately) looked even a little bit like your lofty beauty! That is one gorgeous air rifle (or rifle, period). I've never seen anything like it before... If you don't mind my asking, is that the stock with which it shipped, or is it the beautifully well-done, custom work in walnut it seems to be (to me, anyway)? It's definitely the best looking Benjamin 392 I've ever seen. I can't quite tell from the photo: is that a Williams peeper rear sight, or is it their notch version (what I installed on my custom Crosman 1300KT carbine)?
I'm a huge fan of pumpers too -- my favorite type of air rifle -- and I have quite a few, but the only thing I have even remotely close to that good-looking is my #443 Crosman C2023 carbine (the 100th anniversary edition of their sweet little 362, which I also have). I love my 2023, but even it doesn't measure up to the standard of beauty set by your 392. I also have both of the nice-looking and super-sweet-shooting Seneca Dragonfly Mk2 air rifles (in .22 and .177 caliber), which also look quite nice, but they're not even close to your looker! Color me envious...
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The Apache Fireball was making its shakedown run today
The round loading port for ball ammo was opened up into a slot to facilitate the loading of pellets. JSB .25 Kings resized to .245 went from 591 to 607 over 10 shots at 8 pumps.
The factory rear sight leaves much to be desired IMO, and a final call on accuracy will have to be determined when I come up with a different arrangement. Regardless of my difficulty with the sight picture, it is still minute of squirrel at 25 yards.
The pumping effort on this thing is no joke. Going from 5 to 8 is rather strenuous. Gripping it between the front of the receiver and the first band like a Sheridan is the way to get it done, and you get a decent workout in the bargain.
The round loading port for ball ammo was opened up into a slot to facilitate the loading of pellets. JSB .25 Kings resized to .245 went from 591 to 607 over 10 shots at 8 pumps.
The factory rear sight leaves much to be desired IMO, and a final call on accuracy will have to be determined when I come up with a different arrangement. Regardless of my difficulty with the sight picture, it is still minute of squirrel at 25 yards.
The pumping effort on this thing is no joke. Going from 5 to 8 is rather strenuous. Gripping it between the front of the receiver and the first band like a Sheridan is the way to get it done, and you get a decent workout in the bargain.
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Got some pumpers I'll likely never sell, but I'm starting to doubt that I ever buy another, due to pain in my right shoulder that won't go away.
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The little twinge I feel between my shoulder blades today, tells me that my time is coming as well.Got some pumpers I'll likely never sell, but I'm starting to doubt that I ever buy another, due to pain in my right shoulder that won't go away.
Extended sessions wringing a pumper out are what does it in for me. That Apache pumps harder than my Sheridan A, and I was surprised at how fast the Sheridans effort increased.
The Sheridan starts to increase in effort earlier in the pump cycle, but by 5 pumps, the Apache really gets up there in effort to get to 8.
I think that the differences in the 2 pump mechanisms may cause one to appear harder to pump than the other though. The Sheridan A pump mech. is solid and free from slop or wiggles, while the Apache pump mech. is more reminiscent of the Crosman 101 stamped pump assembly, and has some play in it.
Regardless of the above, the Apache is an absolute hoot to play with. It pops with authority, and a 20 ft. lb. pumper is nothing to sneeze at.
The late 40s to mid 50s pumpers are simply too much fun.
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Howdy Ohio Chuck! That's been a big problem for me too (arthritis on top of old injuries to shoulders and right elbow), but my wife helped me keep using my pumpers (even my Benjamin 392, 397 and .22 and .177 Seneca Dragonfly Mk2 pumpers, which can get a bit tough at higher pump numbers), by giving me regular laser treatments with a hand-held model for personal use she ordered from Amazon. Amazingly (to me), it worked very well! I still have some pain now and then, of course (no runnin' from age), but as long as I try to take things easy, I've been shootin' ever since. The wife uses it too, for her own bad shoulder and knee troubles, and almost anywhere the pain gets bad on either of us. Most of the time, it's actually fairly easy to do it ourselves, without assistance, which is handy. This has been our experience anyway, which could be different for you, naturally, but I'll throw it out there, just in case.Got some pumpers I'll likely never sell, but I'm starting to doubt that I ever buy another, due to pain in my right shoulder that won't go away.
I'd be a mess if I couldn't use my variable pump airguns -- except for about five or six CO2 and two gas-piston breaker airguns (can't afford PCPs), pumpers make up the rest of the almost thirty I own! Absolutely my favorite type.The personal-use, hand-held laser therapy gizmo we bought cost just under a coupl'a hundred bucks, but it's made a huge difference in our being able to handle our arthritis and sore joint issues -- heck, I'd say it's actually saved us money, and it works at least as well as and better than the usual: hot packs, parrafin baths, ultrasound and other stuff that more often than not seems to help only while it's happening. Plus, we don't have to eat up our stomachs anymore with large doses of aspirin and anti-inflammatories (we still use 'em now and then, just not regularly), pay for treatment specialists, or best of all, drop everything to travel to some physical therapy/rehab center when they decide they can do it. Just a short period (20 minutes or so) of regular application of intermittent laser light, once or twice a day for a week or two, and usually that's all it takes for very good relief. I haven't had to use it on my shoulders or elbow now for quite a while (months); that one time seems to have done the trick! As with most gizmos, the technology can be dangerous if misused (blindness, burns and more), but as long as we follow the manufacturers recommendations for safe use, it's been a BIG help. Somethin' you might want to look into, if interested.
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As our friends across the pond might comment, I'm about gobsmacked by how good-looking that air rifle is! Because of some health problems, I gave up on shooting completely for about forty years, until I ordered a Daisy 880 Boxed Kit in late '20/early '21. That was it -- I was hooked! I could hardly believe the difference in power and accuracy between such an inexpensive, cheap-looking plastic air rifle and the pricey, mostly metal and wood-stocked Crosman 760 of my youth! Whoa! A Winchester 1977XS purchase followed quite soon thereafter, then the Crosman Drifter .22 caught my eye (I bought two!) leading to my (first) big splurge buy of a Benjamin 392s (followed later by the .177 version). It shoots quite well with just the iron sights, but when it comes to looks, I missed the bus on this one -- if that is what the stock version 392 looked like, I totally missed out! If I'd been able to get one before the change in materials, that beauty almost certainly would be the highlight of my present collection, even considering the right pretty 446th of 2023 Anniversary Edition remake of the Crosman 362 my wife gave me as a birthday gift. If that's the standard version of the 392 you bought from Benjamin, I consider it about the most gorgeous pumper ever made. Mm mm mm! ;-) You've kept it in good shape too. What a beaut! Nice work.
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I shot the 55 Bluestreak today, from the bench at thirty yards.
I found it shooting low and left, with the Weihrauch .20 cal 13.73's, and was pleased to see it shoot about the same with H&N FTT; so I re-zeroed it, using four strokes. Then I shot a row of shot shells, and one round through the Crazy Eights,
Then I set a target at 75 yards, and shot a group with a dead aim. It hit about 13 inches low with eight strokes. I raised it about half of that with 360 degrees, on the elevation screw. Another 360, had me zeroed. I hit a bullseye on the first shot then noticed it was slightly easier to pump thereafter, so I checked and it was shooting low.
Before I quit I put 360x2 of down in it, and shot another round on the 30 yard tagets with good results.
My last shot was, one shot, one kill, on the larger of my "beerthief" spinners pictured below.
I have been dealing with leaks on this old guy, and probably shouldn't have been shooting full power loads with it. It did not hold air overnight.
So I'll keep plinking using four strokes, and see how she does.
I found it shooting low and left, with the Weihrauch .20 cal 13.73's, and was pleased to see it shoot about the same with H&N FTT; so I re-zeroed it, using four strokes. Then I shot a row of shot shells, and one round through the Crazy Eights,
Then I set a target at 75 yards, and shot a group with a dead aim. It hit about 13 inches low with eight strokes. I raised it about half of that with 360 degrees, on the elevation screw. Another 360, had me zeroed. I hit a bullseye on the first shot then noticed it was slightly easier to pump thereafter, so I checked and it was shooting low.
Before I quit I put 360x2 of down in it, and shot another round on the 30 yard tagets with good results.
My last shot was, one shot, one kill, on the larger of my "beerthief" spinners pictured below.
I have been dealing with leaks on this old guy, and probably shouldn't have been shooting full power loads with it. It did not hold air overnight.
So I'll keep plinking using four strokes, and see how she does.
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