N/A Which Gun?
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Take a look at the Dar line. Under $400 . I have the early gen in .177 and it will group 1/2" @ 50 yds with jsb 10.3
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DAR and Airacuda are generational changes of the same gun. DAR Gen 1, 2, 3, now the Airacuda Gen 1. The stock on the MAX is different but other than the small changes Travis directed Xisico to make to the Airacuda, the guns are mostly the same.
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I’m the human regulator with my CZ200 Hunter. I fill to 185 bar, shoot 40 shots (4 preloaded magazines,) then refill. For its application, 30 yards and in, it’s deadly and spot on.
Whether regulated or unregulated, it’s important to learn your rifle. Shoot targets at every distance and know what’s going to happen. In my opinion it’s a must before you start taking lives. They may be pests, but they deserve a quick death.
Whether regulated or unregulated, it’s important to learn your rifle. Shoot targets at every distance and know what’s going to happen. In my opinion it’s a must before you start taking lives. They may be pests, but they deserve a quick death.
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The velocity variation is greater for a long string with an unregulated gun. You can a smaller number of shots before refilling to keep it down or shoot at shorter range where it won't matter significantly. 30 yards shouldn't be an issue for an unregulated guns. I shot well over 190 with my little Prod on the 30 yard challenge on one fill. Ed, who is keeping the numbers for the 30 yard challenge these days, shot a 200 with an unregulated Huntsman Revere. A 200 means he touched the roughly 1/8th diameter 10 ring at least 20 out of 24 shots. Not much room for added drop from velocity variation. I wouldn't worry about it for even 40 yard pesting or hunting. If you get a 1/4 inch drop at 40 yards how much does it matter.
4 out of my 5 PCPs are regulated as is the 6th which is on the way. Even relatively inexpensive PCPs are regulated these days. So if you prefer it it doesn't change the price range, just the make/model you will want to look at.
For back yard pesting, I would choose a Notos. It's a low 20s fpe rifle which will knock squirrels down with authority at 30-40 yards. Body shots too. But it won't carry 400-500 yards like my 30-50 fpe PCPs. It doesn't store a lot of air so it would be hand pump friendly.
If you want to be able to shoot longer ranges or occasional bigger pest like a raccoon, I would recommend an Avenger. For squirrels I think a 22 is extremely effective but if an occasional bigger pest is a possibility I would get a 25.
All 5 of my inexpensive PCPs (including a 25 Avenger) will hold air and have for over a year. Only two have not needed a new O-ring or two. That is a normal maintenance item for a PCP which I prefer to do myself. None of my guns has needed more than an O-ring or two.
4 out of my 5 PCPs are regulated as is the 6th which is on the way. Even relatively inexpensive PCPs are regulated these days. So if you prefer it it doesn't change the price range, just the make/model you will want to look at.
For back yard pesting, I would choose a Notos. It's a low 20s fpe rifle which will knock squirrels down with authority at 30-40 yards. Body shots too. But it won't carry 400-500 yards like my 30-50 fpe PCPs. It doesn't store a lot of air so it would be hand pump friendly.
If you want to be able to shoot longer ranges or occasional bigger pest like a raccoon, I would recommend an Avenger. For squirrels I think a 22 is extremely effective but if an occasional bigger pest is a possibility I would get a 25.
All 5 of my inexpensive PCPs (including a 25 Avenger) will hold air and have for over a year. Only two have not needed a new O-ring or two. That is a normal maintenance item for a PCP which I prefer to do myself. None of my guns has needed more than an O-ring or two.
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Wow this turned in to quite the pi$$ing contest! I have two Gauntlets in .25. One of them needed some work to fix shoddy workmanship but both are very accurate and hold air for extended time. Also have a Maximus in .22, smaller air tank but all three shoot quite well.
Rick H.
Rick H.
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The Gamo Urban would suit your needs and all you need is a hand pump to keep it charged. Mine served excellently, it gives up ”nothing” in pesting accuracy at your stated ranges and beyond. I now owned pricier, nicer rigs, but in practical honesty the Urban simply was stellar as my first PCP. The BSA barrel is well known for its accuracy…
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You people make things just so much more difficult that they need to be.
First of all I said "can tune " but in reality you can get the standard out the box zero it and start killing pest at 30-40 yards no problem, then down the line can refine the tune and the Standard has plenty easy adjustments to use with the transfer port and hammerspring.
It kills me that all of a sudden unless a gun is regulated it isn't valuable anylonger
Also regulated guns have their own sets of problems and they are more difficult to solve for a newbe, simple unregulated guns are way more friendly for the neophyte
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Between DAR or Airacuda? I'd go DAR myself. Now that may be because I was a tester for DAR before they ever were released.
I was given a .25 to test long range (out to 100 yards) after testing a bunch that others were testing. All the tests I had done before getting my DAR were limited to 30 to 50 yards. And those were all over the USA as I traveled. Probably didn't hurt having spent a weekend shooting with the Main Guy at DAR while at a chicken farm in California.
I was given a .25 to test long range (out to 100 yards) after testing a bunch that others were testing. All the tests I had done before getting my DAR were limited to 30 to 50 yards. And those were all over the USA as I traveled. Probably didn't hurt having spent a weekend shooting with the Main Guy at DAR while at a chicken farm in California.
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Thanks to all you guys who gave advice! I just ordered a Notos from Natchezss so thanks for the heads up on that sale Firewalker.
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I totally Buck-Rail modded mine out, but I kind of wish I kept it stock. Maybe just add the rail on the air tube. Carm or Maple mags are a nice addition. My stock magazine was nice, but the 3d printed ones are better.
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Your going to love the light weight and easy to fill air tube.
You gotta get an aftermarket magazine though, the OEM are horrible!
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