What would you choose?

[madeintheuk]

Looking for a break barrel that’s accurate, decent quality, and not too hold sensitive. Don’t plan on spending over $500. just honesty looking for something I can shoot in the yard with the kids, and use as a backup or shtf style thing if I run out of air.

 

[boscoebrea]

the Beeman R-7 is great for that,want more power the Beeman R-9 also HW95.
Hard to beat the R-7,had mine since 1981.

 

[Sqwirl57]

HW50S. With the extra money (and a little more) buy an HW30S for the kiddos.

 

[jccams]

HW50S. With the extra money (and a little more) buy an HW30S for the kiddos.

This would be the perfect scenario. Otherwise either would do what you are asking, 50 may be a little tough for the kids to cock depending on their age and size.

 

[madeintheuk]

What’s the difference between the 30 and 50? Power output? And will they both be adequate in 22?

 

[Sqwirl57]

What’s the difference between the 30 and 50? Power output? And will they both be adequate in 22?

~7ftlbs vs 12ftlbs. The 30S is smaller, much easier to cock, stupidly quiet and perfect for smaller children. The 50S is quite a bit flatter shooting and incredibly accurate for its size. All scoped up its about 2/3 the weight of the 97K but still manages to maintain most of the 97Ks accuracy. Its a great lightweight hunting rifle. I would actually recommend both of them in .177 over the .22 though.

Also, in .22 if I'm not dead on with my holds and follow through those gun vertical string like nobody's buisness. The .177s are much more forgiving.

 

[madeintheuk]

~7ftlbs vs 12ftlbs. The 30S is smaller, much easier to cock, stupidly quiet and perfect for smaller children. The 50S is quite a bit flatter shooting and incredibly accurate for its size. All scoped up its about half the weight of the 97K but still manages to maintain most of the 97Ks accuracy. Its a great lightweight hunting rifle. I would actually recommend both of them in .177 over the .22 though.

Only reason I asked about 22 is bc I don’t own anything in 177. I would much prefer something that'll shoot the metric ton of c pellets I have other than having to buy another caliber ammo. Unless you think they aren’t powerful enough to use in 22

 

[Sqwirl57]

Only reason I asked about 22 is bc I don’t own anything in 177. I would much prefer something that'll shoot the metric ton of c pellets I have other than having to buy another caliber ammo. Unless you think they aren’t powerful enough to use in 22

I have both guns in .177 and .22 and they both work fine but I find the .177s are much easier to shoot accurately. Aside from the pellets having less dwell time in the barrel, the significantly higher velocity just makes figuring out holds much faster. My .177 50S pushes an 8.44gr at 800fps whereas the .22 is a mortar at only 600fps with 14.66gr pellets. I’ve taken squirrels at 50yds with both though for what its worth. The 22 just took more practice.

 

[cea1960]

The R-7 & HW30 are best in .177, but the .22 will suffice for short range plinking. If your kids are little, the l.o.p. is also an issue. I would go with a fully tuned XS-12 from Flying Dragon.

 

[Sc0-]

HW30 will serve you well, plus good time to stock up on cheaper .177 pellets for plinking and for small critters. Not sure on the cocking weight difference between the 30 and 50, but the 30 is smaller youth sized.

 

[madeintheuk]

Pardon my ignorance on the subject, but is the hw50 and hw50s the same?
and what are the differences between hw30, and hw35?

looking on AOA website for clarification.

 

[Sqwirl57]

Pardon my ignorance on the subject, but is the hw50 and hw50s the same?
and what are the differences between hw30, and hw35?

looking on AOA website for clarification.

The HW50 has a Perfect trigger while the 50S has a Rekord. You 100% want the 50S with a Rekord trigger.

 

[Bear-of-Grayling]

If you absolutely want a .22 caliber, the HW50S or the HW35 or HW35E (walnut stock) would be the better choice. They both have internal features that the HW30 doesn’t have also. They are heavier and more to cock for the youth shooter however. Krale is the cheapest and fastest place to get one.
30/50/35: respectively Weight = lightest/middle/heaviest - Build Quality = good/ better/best

Search results for: 'Weihrauch'

www.krale.shop

 

[madeintheuk]

Thanks for all the advice guys. I think the consensus is, the HW50 is the way to go. I’ve never owned anything in 177 before, so I’m a little out of my comfort zone there, but it seems the flatter trajectory is more beneficial than the larger caliber. This will be for inside of 35yds realistically, and I’ll probably be keeping it open sights.

 

[crowski]

Nice gun. Crow

 

[iAMzehTOASTY1]

My one any one so far for your question is the Ruger Impact Max Elite. Not even $200.22 so you would have more left over for optics

 

[cjtamu]

Kim has a HW50S in .22. Great little gun. We use the JSB 13.43 grain pellets. Ups the velocity, about 660 fps as I recall and a little over 12FPE. I like it enough that I occasionally sneak it out. One thing to think about if you’re using iron sights is the cheek piece height. HW sometimes changes it around in different versions and you’ll want something low enough to be comfortable.

 

[DeanB]

HW50 or R7

 

[Vetmx]

Thanks for all the advice guys. I think the consensus is, the HW50 is the way to go. I’ve never owned anything in 177 before, so I’m a little out of my comfort zone there, but it seems the flatter trajectory is more beneficial than the larger caliber. This will be for inside of 35yds realistically, and I’ll probably be keeping it open sights.

Trust me, a .22 springer will put you way out of your comfort zone. I’ve had a few and they are angry. A tuned .177 is the way to go. Tonight my dad shot my tuned TX. He went and grabbed my old Webley Vulcan I gave him. He handed it to me and said do to this what you did to that TX. Tomorrow I will be on the lathe turning Delrin.

 

[Deerstalker]

My recommendation is the HW95. I have had outstanding service from AoA FWIW. I had to replace the seal due to a dieseling problem caused by the Weihrauch factory over oiling/greasing which I believe was because of inexperienced folks used due to the China Virus.