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What would be the best projectile

You are spot on — each barrel likes different projectiles.

But before you buy one of each available in .22cal — easily over 100 😳
here are some principles that will make your selection easier (and cheaper 😆).


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Domes (round nose) have a higher BC, and therefore less wind drift.
This is significant if you have any kind of wind — because unlike firearm projectiles the airgun pellets have a terrible BC.
Below I attach a comprehensive pellet BC table. Missing on that table are the Dead Center pellets from JTS — those just came out and are getting good reviews.


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Quality of the manufacturer:
You get high quality¹ from:
● JST (Dead Center), RWS, Norma, SIG, Crosman

And highest quality¹ from:
● H&N and JSB (incl. Predator)
If you want ultimate precision, especially for extended ranges, it's worth spending the extra pennies, it's not a whole lot more like with firearms ammo.... 👍🏼


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Weight is important, because again, unlike centerfire rifles, airguns don't have immense power — and springers (gas spring or steel spring) like your gun have even less power.
Note however that you bought one of the most powerful springers out there. 😉

➠ This low power will make the trajectory rather steeply curved.
➠ And that will require you to make elevation adjustments often.
➠ And that will also require to range your target rather precisely.

➠ ➠ So, to reduce this somewhat, and to extend your point blank range — it helps if your projectile is not very heavy for caliber (and for the power you have available).

▪ For your power level (28-30FPE), and
▪ for your caliber (.22), and
▪ in order to avoid getting too close to the speed of sound which will make your pellet loose precision (max. around 950fps),
➠ the typical weight range of available pellets would be:
From 14.3gr (cheap Crosman)
to 25.39gr (JTS, JSB)


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It pays to shop around.
Some sellers have deals like Pay-3-Get-4. However, they only give you the cheapest pellet tin for free.
If you buy a variety, it's better to buy from a seller with low prices to begin with, like www.TrenierAirguns.com


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Packaging of pellets is critical during shipping, because bent pellet skirts translate into fliers and misses.
Amazon is the worst offender of the bunch. Sellers who specialize in airguns are usually much better.


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You didn't ask, but just to make sure you start out well:
Airguns of the springer type like yours are extremely harsh on scopes, because of a double recoil (unlike firearms). Magnum springers like yours are scope killers.
Ask in the forum about this particularity. You don't want to ruin your nice scopes. 😊


7️⃣
Airguns of the springer type like yours, because of the double recoil, have a special technique for shooting them, and this will be even more important for a magnum springer.
The technique is called the artillery hold.
Again, ask the forum.
BTW, you might get more advice on springers at the GTA (www.GatewayToAirguns.org).


You'll have lots of fun. 😊

Matthias



¹That's my opinion, I don't have scientific proof. However, in the pellet reviews of Hard Air Magazine certain brands score high, and other don't.


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BC Table .22cal

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Would a vortex crossfire II suffice and handle the different recoil you are talking about?
 
This thread is one of the best 'new guy ammo threads" I have seen. Very good advice. The only addition I can make is to emphasize that the super light (alloy) pellets are usually a bad idea in the more powerful springers like yours.

Cleaning before shooting is also to be emphasized. Every hatsan springer that I have seen from the factory has an amazing amount of "something" in the bore that you do not need.
 
I appreciate all the information. And I’m sure I would’ve wasted money on slugs. I’m getting H&N hornet pellets and will post results when I have everything dialed in. Is there a specific snake you guys like to clean these things with? I glad someone said something because I would have not thought of it with the absence of some sort of ignition powder.
 
I appreciate all the information. And I’m sure I would’ve wasted money on slugs. I’m getting H&N hornet pellets and will post results when I have everything dialed in. Is there a specific snake you guys like to clean these things with? I glad someone said something because I would have not thought of it with the absence of some sort of ignition powder.

may i ask why the hornets?

reason i ask is,
pointed pellets wont be nearly as accurate as domes.
 
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I’m killing it with questions here. lol. Anyone know if I can get away with .63 inch high rings? I went with crossfire but the rimfire, parallax at 50 yards. I could not justify the cost for adjustable, sorry. I get a discount on vortex and I like them. Adjustable parallax was going to be a lot more. .87 inch high is the next ring size height. I can’t find the specs for the hatsan 125. Trying to keep height over bore minimum. Thanks!!

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Damnit. I have no clue. lol. Ok. I total agree, whatever is the most accurate. That’s what I want. What do you suggest? Money not being an issue with pellets. I’m not going to shoot enough to go broke.

get a few different weights of domes,
JSB,JTS,and H&N all make high quality pellets.

dont waste your time with super lightweight pellets,and pointed pellets.
 
Hades or Atomics are the only “hunting” pellet I’ve had good accuracy with. I have shot hundreds of critters with dome pellets and can say with confidence no animal taken with a hades or atomic has been deader’r with them.

In the last week I have killed 4 squirrels with head shots. Two with a 6 fpe at the target Crosman 14.3, and two with 28 fpe FX 18.1 gr. They dropped just the same.
 
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Ok. Vortex scope rings and crossfire rimefire scope mounted and torqued to specs. Jsb exact jumbo 15.89. Zeroing in at 20 yards. Got a couple touching and I was getting some flyers. I started to carefully look at the pellets. I selected ones that had zero to little deformities and was able to get a quarter size group at 20 yards. But I had to really be picky. A lot of these pellets have some serious defects and those are definitely the fliers. And there are a lot of deformed ones in this can. Is this normal?
 
Ok. Vortex scope rings and crossfire rimefire scope mounted and torqued to specs. Jsb exact jumbo 15.89. Zeroing in at 20 yards. Got a couple touching and I was getting some flyers. I started to carefully look at the pellets. I selected ones that had zero to little deformities and was able to get a quarter size group at 20 yards. But I had to really be picky. A lot of these pellets have some serious defects and those are definitely the fliers. And there are a lot of deformed ones in this can. Is this normal?
Unfortunately yes it is. They cost a little more, but I have found better consistency with Air Arms 16 grain. Both JSB and FX 15.89 often come to me with belt skirts. 18 grain jsb, fx, and air arms have been better quality as far as damage in my experience.
 
Unfortunately yes it is. They cost a little more, but I have found better consistency with Air Arms 16 grain. Both JSB and FX 15.89 often come to me with belt skirts. 18 grain jsb, fx, and air arms have been better quality as far as damage in my experience.
These H&N hornets are super consistent. But I would be willing to try something else too. Like I said .75 inches at 30 yards. I wouldn’t mind trying to beat that with something else. I did eliminate one squirrel, pellet performed well