What is your Fastest / Hardest Hitting Springer?

[Bear-of-Grayling]

The number one slammer in my lineup is the Hatsan 135QE in .22 and .25 caliber. The 135 .22 caliber launches the 14.3 grain Crosman Premier Hollow Points over 1000fps. Very accurately also. Nothing else even comes close. Shown with a dot sight. Total weight is 9 lbs/14 oz.

 

[Flintsack]

JW80 With the 25 caliber barrel installed. It was shooting just under 30 pounds with the 25 caliber king, I’m going to try the 34 grain for the first time this summer…Incredible accuracy.

Those are nice looking rifles. How is the trigger?

mike

 

[Richfromohio]

This is my Hatsan 135 in 30 caliber, that is with the 50.15 gr JSB's. This Hatsan is very accurate, best part has less recoil. Had this at the Pyramyd Air 2019 shoot. Tom Gaylord had more than a few good words to say about it. My Hatsan 135 in 25 Caliber with a 25.4 gr Air Arms is accurate and shooting over 800 FPS. I have a Hatsan 125 in 22 caliber with 14.3 crosman's shooting over 1000 FPS. The Hatsan's have been tuned by me with custom made parts and new barrels except for the 125. I had several people shoot my guns there and no complaints about recoil. That's my best compliment, to have a powerful air rifle that doesn't knock your teeth out from recoiling.

 

[Bear-of-Grayling]

JW80 With the 25 caliber barrel installed. It was shooting just under 30 pounds with the 25 caliber king, I’m going to try the 34 grain for the first time this summer…Incredible accuracy.

Those are nice looking rifles. How is the trigger?

mike

With the removal of the two factory 3mm trigger adjustment screws and replacing them with ones approximately 1/16” longer, I have the triggers under two lbs. Could go even lighter but that trigger is holding back a lot of energy. That’s a beautiful rifle you have there and in .25 caliber no less.

 

[Bear-of-Grayling]

This is my Hatsan 135 in 30 caliber, that is with the 50.15 gr JSB's. This Hatsan is very accurate, best part has less recoil. Had this at the Pyramyd Air 2019 shoot. Tom Gaylord had more than a few good words to say about it. My Hatsan 135 in 25 Caliber with a 25.4 gr Air Arms is accurate and shooting over 800 FPS. I have a Hatsan 125 in 22 caliber with 14.3 crosman's shooting over 1000 FPS. The Hatsan's have been tuned by me with custom made parts and new barrels except for the 125. I had several people shoot my guns there and no complaints about recoil. That's my best compliment, to have a powerful air rifle that doesn't knock your teeth out from recoiling.

That’s awesome. And it appears to to be the spring version opposed to my Vortex models. Mine have recoil for sure but very pleasant. I am going to convert one into the spring version for comparison.

 

[Flintsack]

I have three barrels for it. It came with a 22. I picked up an original JW 17 that it absolutely loves. Shoots CP heavies fantastically in 17.

and then I had Allen Z Convert one of my super accurate 25 Theoben PCP barrels to fit my JW. You guys are motivating me to put the 25 on and shoot it.

what I’m hearing is your hats and rifles are low recoil very high power, with a 2 pound trigger. I think I would have to lean towards the 25 or the 30. Just to dampen and all that power a bit. But then again a 22 that breaks the sound barrier would be kind of fun.

very interesting 

mike

 

[crowski]

I have the Hanson 135 .30 cal. 

 An absolute brute. It’s as hard or harder to cock than my stock HW90. I only put 20 rounds through it. It’s my only .30 rifle. Nothing else I have comes close, as far as FPE. A legit cannon.
Don’t know which is fastest, had a Diana 34 which was, but sold it. Crow 

 

[Flintsack]

Crow 

did you buy an air gun store? Lol

mike

 

[Bear-of-Grayling]

I have three barrels for it. It came with a 22. I picked up an original JW 17 that it absolutely loves. Shoots CP heavies fantastically in 17.

and then I had Allen Z Convert one of my super accurate 25 Theoben PCP barrels to fit my JW. You guys are motivating me to put the 25 on and shoot it.

what I’m hearing is your hats and rifles are low recoil very high power, with a 2 pound trigger. I think I would have to lean towards the 25 or the 30. Just to dampen and all that power a bit. But then again a 22 that breaks the sound barrier would be kind of fun.

very interesting 

mike

Not when you first get one. And not “low recoil” but pleasant recoil. Very authoritative behavior but not teeth rattling. Also, they can be fiddled and tuned with into something like no other. A mornings plinking session and no need of a gym.

 

[Bear-of-Grayling]

Crow 

did you buy an air gun store? Lol

mike

That’s Mr. Crow Weihrauch. Sir.

 

[crowski]

Crow 

did you buy an air gun store? Lol

mike

I had travel points on my Visa which I converted to dollars due to fact I’m not travelling in near vicinity. I had millions of points with purchases through business. Picked up 20 Weihrauch’s. Score. Better than the dumpster. Couldn’t resist. Crow 

 

[r1lover]

I had a Beeman Kodiak .25. An over bored barrel resulted in poor to mediocre accuracy depending on pellet but it was a hammer. Shot H&N FTT's at 810 fps for 29 fpe. Best group I could manage was 5/8 inch c.t.c at 23 yds. Most were worse.

Here are two 10 shot groups at 23 yards. The group on the left was fired using conventional spring gun wisdom, the group on the right was fired using a very tight grip with both hands and pulled hard into my shoulder. It was a real PITA gun!

 

[DualMagMike]

Gas ram but no factory piston gun is more potent. Theoben & Beeman Dual Magnums, rated and proven for 12-36fpe, my Beeman marked example makes as much as 38.

 

[KWK]

Hardest hitting. Not fastest. .25 Tomahawk. It wears a different scope now. Fits better. About 20 FPE

This could be fastest but I don't run it too high. Gets too snappy. Feels better at 14-16 FPE

 

[MScottLeeman]

Fastest And hardest hitting would be my .20 Beeman RX2 at 21/22 fpe. ( If hitting ones target is a factor.)

Fastest: Diana 350 .177

Hardest: Turkish Webley Patriot .22 at 26 fpe.

Mike

 

[OldSpook]

I don't have any really hard hitting Magnum springers anymore. They have all been tuned for accuracy. The 22 shoot around 18 ft lb. Not very impressive. They shoot pretty good though and they still carry enough energy at 50 yards to kill a squirrel easily when I do my part. I do find those really high powered Theobens intriguing but I'll never be able to afford one even if I could I wouldn't spend that kind of money on an air rifle. That is not to say they're not worth the money I'm sure they are. I'm not a collector and so it would not be a good investment for me.

 

[Daniair]

 

Definitely not the fastest but this boy really hits hard (135 Carnivore in .30 caliber, also the only springer I own at the moment) This is the original spring piston version, I've got some powerful break barrels but they're all running on gasrams, my favourite and winner in speed and accu is my Weihrauch HW90



Cheers,

Daniel

 

[JayJay]

Wow, you guys have some pretty nice airgun shooting irons. The Theoben dual magnums are especially interesting. 

Ok, I'll bite.

My HW90 with a 30mm Vortek Vacuseal, and the ram charged to 26 bar, sent a 9.56 grain .22 H&N FTT green downrange at 1305 fps (36.1 fpe). A Crosman Premiere flew downrange at a more 'sedate' 986 fps (30.9 fpe). And the sound curled my hair!

LOL - I almost blew the back out of my backstop. I had to change out the final 3/4" ply piece and more rubber mulch in it. The higher velocities go right through regular 3/4" plywood.

I recently swapped out the full length barrel for a HW95 carbine 410 mm barrel, both in .22. The carbine barrel delivers almost exactly the same performance. It cuts about 4 ounces off the gun weight, to under 9 lbs.

I have a .25 barrel. Should try that. This HW90 is really just a test-bed. I have not sorted out the accuracy issues, and the high power is not comfortable. It'll probably end up around 18 bar, 800 fps. But I like the Primary Arms red dot and the carbine barrel.

 

[pdxFrank]

gamo .22 magnum. they claim 1300 feet and about 40FPE. i don't own a chrony (paper doesn't care how hard i hit it), but it's definitely a cheek-bruiser...

dunno which hits harder, but the diana 350mag is a pussycat in comparison, according to my face.

 

[Daniair]

My newest toy spitting .177 JSB Exacts with serious speed and accuracy. (round the 1250fps)

The Diana 460 Magnum pretty good bang for the money I must admit