What Is There To Get Excited About In Spring Guns?
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A fixed barrel, under lever with GIS, and adjustable butt pad and adjustable stock (comb) in the 14-15 fpe range, preferablY from HW.
An adjustable stock and butt pad on HW97's similar to the stock on HW98
An adjustable stock and butt pad on HW97's similar to the stock on HW98
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Most of the new nitro whatever ones have no appeal for me. “weihrauch quality shrouded multipump pneumatic in the $600 range I would be very interested.” +1!
A new sprinter from Air Arms would be nice perhaps. But a high quality multi pump, that’s striking a chord!
A new sprinter from Air Arms would be nice perhaps. But a high quality multi pump, that’s striking a chord!
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There used to be springers built with ether injectors. There's a reason you don't see those: they would blow up.
I'd like to see a bull-pup breakbarrel or side-lever. I know there's been some in the past but they were usually wimpy .177 barely going 550 fps. I'm wanting something about 15 fpe.
To answer the OP's question: I get excited about airgun manufacturers continuing to refine springer technology in order to bring about the best balance of power, accuracy, weight, cocking effort etc. There is still research to do here. It would be nice if airgun manufacturers agreed to stop marketing their guns as the fastest, cheapest, most powerful. We know that just means lots of bad airguns on the market and people who think all airguns work like that which in turn hurts the industry as a whole.
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Tough question for me to answer, given the two big innovations in the last few years--(1) upping the FPS of springers thereby accentuating the shooting challenges and (2) the incredible drop in PCP entry level prices and features. When I first entered, PCPs mostly didn't try to compete with quality Spring/Ram guns.
I like the synthetic stocks (but like wood better). I like the array of calibers available, also. Sig Sauer has added some innovative guns (pistols and the ASP20 rifle), as well as Berretta. Umarex offers some super replicas. And, let's really not overlook the numerous, positive manufacturing contributions by the Chinese.
Sounds to me like we've got a lot of new innovation occurring in the Springer and CO2 realms. Again, I guess it depends upon how you view the partially-filled glass.
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I like the synthetic stocks (but like wood better). I like the array of calibers available, also. Sig Sauer has added some innovative guns (pistols and the ASP20 rifle), as well as Berretta. Umarex offers some super replicas. And, let's really not overlook the numerous, positive manufacturing contributions by the Chinese.
Sounds to me like we've got a lot of new innovation occurring in the Springer and CO2 realms. Again, I guess it depends upon how you view the partially-filled glass.
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If we’re talking about what we want to see... • more underlever or side cocking actions. • a springer that’s dedicated for benchrest • a springer that’s designed for low cost/ entry level field target With all the bells and whistles attached. • a high quality HW multi pump pneumatic.
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Would like to see a spring gun with a ratchet cocking system. Could shoot 1/4 1/2 or fully loaded spring. Might make a good trainer for new shooters.
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A sidelever bullpup with a high quality gas ram in .25 capable of the accuracy of a PCP with minimal recoil and a multi shot design with a decent 10 round magazine producing 20+ fpe and weighing just six pounds that would be my dream lol
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A sidelever bullpup [...]
capable of the accuracy of a PCP with minimal recoil
producing 20+ fpe
that would be my dream lol
HEY! Not fair, SummitShooter, you're almost quoting me....!
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Well, and here comes Moss on a rock sliding on the same track 
:And I thought I was weird when I wrote that the first time around....
There are others like me (not other weirdos, watch it!
)....What are the chances this will come to pass before most of us are too old to cock that bullpup springer...?
Maybe we need to stop expecting innovation from die-hard-
-traditionalists of my home country* and instead ask the innovators in airgunning (like FX) to move springers into the 21st century.... 
Just saying....
Matthias
*[Germany (and related)]
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There's a NEAR MINT Some sort of special edition 177 Beeman R7 with what looks to be a BSA Airgun 2-7x32AO mounted for $400 SHIPPED all ready to shoot includes a soft case. Probably make SOMEBODY HAPPY. Yo!
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I remember seeing interest in a group buy a while back. Did this happen?
I would love to get in on one, especially if the barrels are good.
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I had a 20 CAL Factory RWS Diana M48 black out sold it after the 20 cal CROSMAN Premier got discontinued and matter of fact I got rid of most of my 20 cal springers and Theoben gas rams because of it. Only got a handful left of 20cal springers. I just couldn't part with my green laminate limited edition centennial or was that millennial I forget anywhoo 20 cal HW97k. Bummed the hell outa me when they started producing those stocks regularly many years later even till today so I bought a 177 HW77k with same green laminate added some Vortex voodoo to that one. I think a Diana 54 or 56 in 20 cal would be perfect if tuned to shoot at 22-24 fpe. Right Over the FT limit then PERFECT! Yo!
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Lewis,
The group buy was for HW50’s and yes it did happen. They are now waiting on shipment.
My .20 54 is coming from Hector Medina who commissioned them years ago. I believe he still has some 34 in .20 also.
Mitch
The group buy was for HW50’s and yes it did happen. They are now waiting on shipment.
My .20 54 is coming from Hector Medina who commissioned them years ago. I believe he still has some 34 in .20 also.
Mitch
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I would like to see Diana come out with something mid range between the 240 and the 34. Something equivalent to an HW50S. And make it with blued steel and a walnut stock. Parkerized metal and synthetic stocks have no soul.
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I feel insulted, Bill:
You just told me indirectly that I like Zombies....
Well, I guess I always was a little different, I guess....
Bill, all in good fun!
I won't retaliate with accusations of outdated traditionalism and backward nostalgism....
All in jest. I respect your preferences, I do.
Matthias
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Mathias,
No offense taken. I am admittedly old school, traditionalist oriented. My oldest son and I go round and round on the issue all the time. I tell him he is too tacky kool, synthetic stocked, chassis mounted rifle oriented. And I shoot better than him. He is too spray and pray.
No offense taken. I am admittedly old school, traditionalist oriented. My oldest son and I go round and round on the issue all the time. I tell him he is too tacky kool, synthetic stocked, chassis mounted rifle oriented. And I shoot better than him. He is too spray and pray.
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That's the one. Joy of shooting.
I had been searching for the SR version of the TX200 for years and then all of a sudden, within two years, I had two of them. I have a Mk1 and a left hand action Mk2. I also have a recoiling version of the Mk2 and a Hunter Carbine ordered. The three I have all shoot very well and definitely have soul. The two SRs have Jmacarri CS1000 stocks and I have a beech and walnut stock for the regular Mk2. All are tuned to between 10.5 and 11.6 ft/lb. Most accurate at that power and pleasant to shoot.
I have some really nice PCPs that have been neglected for about four years.
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