N/A What is the most accurate.177 PCP at 100yds all opinions welcome???

[MikeVV]

So...you buy an accurate gun ! Most...today are right there, with your accuracy wish.

BUT...how about...you ? How accurate are you ? The gun can be the most accurate, and tuned by the best in the business, but the person pulling the trigger...?
Ah ,yes, sand bags, mono, bi, tri pods with six legged tables for stability...

MIke

 

[jps2486]

My FX Crown MKII with a 600 mm barrel is pretty good, but I have a RAW HM 1000x on order to see if it's better.

 

[bigHUN]

I am shooting in a gun club only, 100 M rings with my .25x700 Impact MK2, JSB 34 gn MK1's and MK2's. Probably well over 20 K shots so far in past 2-3 years with this setup. I am currently emptying my .25 cal tins and planning to move to an other caliber for 100 M.
For shooting 100 M distances and consistently hitting rings with satisfying results - we need a mass (to length ratio) in the projectile to hold the POI.
What people claiming that the .177 cal can do dis-and-dat @ 100 M is - a result of their lifetime stubborn dedication that wanna proof the impossible.
To simplify...if you looking to buy a new gun/barrel for 100 M rings shooting ...
Go with either .22 heaviest possible slugs you can get for that calibre, that means the projectile will be longer for average magazine,
or .30 pellets, again prepare a lot of air power for these.

 

[SorenDrost]

Shooting a .177 at 100 yards or beyond definitely requires shooting slugs and not pellets

I shoot my Daystate Red Wolf .177 HP, Daystate Delta Wolf .177 HP, Daystate Alpha Wolf .177 HP and my BRK Ghost .177 HP at 100 meters or 110 yards with great results

These metal targets are shot at 150 meters or 164 yards with 10 shots sub MOA groupings

 

[Peashooter]

This day and age, i would for sure get a rifle that would allow you to up the caliber if that is possible where you are and you get bored with the .177 stuff.
Hell i am even contemplating ordering a .22 upgrade kit, and then just pray it do not get caught in customs.

Here it is stupid you need a hunting licence to get larger caliber, CUZ there are barely anything you can legally hunt with a air rifle here, and it is a quite new fact at that.
IMO higher caliber, and i am ok with .22 - .25 and maybe .30 should of course necessitate a gun safe and a course in proper gun safety, and registering your weapons, but then you should just be 18 as far as i go.
But the goggles i wear are also completely different from the ones worn by the people in charge here.

Could be CUZ in the 70ties the trend here in child upbringing was freedom under responsibility, which soon got replaced by big brother know best.

 

[Arzrover]

There are some problems with your desires...
Several of the above posts have detailed good and bad about 100 yard 177 shooting. I plink a lot at various ranges up to 208 on my range and would not depend on any 177 except with the heavier slugs at longer ranges. I shot this at 100 with a 12 ft lb Steyr and 8.4 gn pellets in virtually no wind. The first 3 are touching but I could register the faintest change and held a little but still went left. On the fifth, I could feel just the slightest more change and held about 1" more and still went more left. It's a very good group and if the wind hadn't changed, would likely be all touching. To be clear here, the wind was so low, even with the felt change, didn't move my wind flag ribbons at all !

Now that was at 12 ft lb. The problem I've had has been stability. My wifes Red Wolf would likely do this in good conditions with 16.1s at 33 ft lb but they seem to go unstable somewhere around 85 yards. It can get sub moa for a lot of the shots but the ones that fly are really bad. These represent to me the best long range option because they are heavier and the best bc... just can't get them stable for that kind of distances. Now I've seen 10.3s and 13.4 MRD's stay stable much further but they blow a lot more in the wind so they are MUCH more difficult and critical to judge wind with.
All I'm trying to portray here is that though the 177 CAN shoot in really good conditions @ 100, trying to do that in any kind of wind will be quite difficult. It's already difficult enough with pellets that are twice the bc !
Now slugs might be a different matter. I've documented my fun with the 20 gn NSA's and had them shoot well to over 200 yds. The 16 gn area slugs seem to be about the best for the 1 in 17 twist barrels though.
Good luck on your search !
Bob

 

[Headshots]

I'm interested in seeing some targets at 100 . 4 , 5 shot groups and group size average. .177 doesn't seem like a popular choice for 100y groups. Mine is limited to 50 max unless I'm goofing around shooting cans or like items .

And the slower 12 fpe .177 was actually more accurate at 100y ?

 

[coastal drifter]

Here’s two five shot groups at 130 yards using knockout 13.43 grain slugs at 1000 fps out of my RedWolf HP .177, it’s incredibly accurate with those slugs.
The bunch of shots on the disk is at 100 yards, same rifle and slug.
The second group would have been a personal best if the last shot stayed in the group!
In my opinion the RedWolf is worth the pain to the wallet!

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nice!

 

[Peashooter]

I think i owe to say, when i have tried pellets at my max range of 86 M then it have been very rare, and often due to me having shot my way thru 3-4 tins of slugs first.
So it is by no means something i have worked hard on, so i could maybe see improvements if i was more persistent in this regard.

 

[klentz]

Shooting a .177 at 100 yards or beyond definitely requires shooting slugs and not pellets

I shoot my Daystate Red Wolf .177 HP, Daystate Delta Wolf .177 HP, Daystate Alpha Wolf .177 HP and my BRK Ghost .177 HP at 100 meters or 110 yards with great results

These metal targets are shot at 150 meters or 164 yards with 10 shots sub MOA groupings

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Wow is that impressive!

 

[igolfat8]

Wanting some feedback as to what my new .177 should be, looking for superior accuracy at 100 yds or more?

I see you are in Ohio. Consider coming to our N50 match Tuesday 5/28 at 10am and talk with us in person about your goals.

MeekerSite

meekersportsmanclub.com

We have some .177 shooters. They shot our N50 (50Y Benchrest) match with .177’s and guess what they showed up with at the next match?

 

[dgeesaman]

Wanting some feedback as to what my new .177 should be, looking for superior accuracy at 100 yds or more?

You’re going to need a compressor, a good .177 pcp, some good pellets or slugs, and a 100+ yard indoor range.

 

[Nico5999]

I have had pretty good success shooting various NSA Slugs out of my Air Arms S510 Tactical. For whatever reason, this one came from PA shooting HOT (around 27 FPE in .177!). The 12.5gr NSA's are singing along around 920 or so and they will consistently shoot around 1.5" or so at 100.

Even though the slugs do better than pellets, in .177 they are so susceptible to the wind I feel like I'm shooting .25 pellets lol.

YMMV.

 

[Spartan]

Wanting some feedback as to what my new .177 should be, looking for superior accuracy at 100 yds or more?

Is there a specific reason it has to be .177? Based on your desire to have accuracy at 100+ yds, .177 is simply not the best tool for the job unless you have external constraints that make .177 the only option.

If there are no such constraints, then perhaps consider expanding your horizons into the larger calibers that will be more effective at 100+ yds.

 

[TheRealHearkensSaltLake]

The really fantastic thing about the Zan .177 @ 975. FPS other than the exceptional accuracy is the pop/slap they make when hitting starlings. It’s astonishing under 100 yards and very noticeable at 200. The JSB KO’s are very accurate too, but little pop.

 

[Scott.t]

I had an rti prophet compact .177 and could shoot 13gr zan slugs out to 100 yards great, 1/2” or better if I did my part and no wind. Now have an fx crown 500mm .177 shooting the same 13gr zan slugs and it too is 1/2” or better at 100 yards

 

[orangeokie]

I’ve heard the Redwolf mentioned several times in this conversation. I have no doubt it’s an amazing wpn but wow that price tag !!!

Your cheap Chinese PCPs are not going to be 100 yard guns. Daystate, FX, American Air Arms, BSA and Air Arms is where I would look for the quality and accuracy at 100 yards. Most of the rifles from those brands can out shoot the "shooter" in many cases at 100 yards.

 

[jps2486]

Is there a specific reason it has to be .177? Based on your desire to have accuracy at 100+ yds, .177 is simply not the best tool for the job unless you have external constraints that make .177 the only option.

If there are no such constraints, then perhaps consider expanding your horizons into the larger calibers that will be more effective at 100+ yds.

The 100 yard matches that I compete in have no caliber restraints excya power limit of 100 fpe. I, and ott, have used everything up to 30 cal. This range always has turbulent conditions. We have national competitors here that use highly developed rifles and are darned good marksmen. Anyone can win on any day. I just like the challenge. That’s why I’m trying to make a .177 competitive. I think I have, but the marksmanship is up to me.

 

[jps2486]

The 100 yard matches that I compete in have no caliber restraints except power limit of 100 fpe. I, and others, have used everything up to 30 cal. This range always has turbulent conditions. We have national competitors here that use highly developed rifles and are darned good marksmen. Anyone can win on any day. I just like the challenge. That’s why I’m trying to make a .177 competitive. I think I have, but the marksmanship is up to me.

 

[bowopt]

I think the Viking Airgunner's YouTube videos (http://www.youtube.com/@VikingAirgunner) are useful for understanding the capability and limitations of a .177 shooting long-range. Also, he tried a few pellets and slugs, so you can use them as a reference. By the way, he uses FX Impact, which I don't own, but I still learnt a lot from him.