Air Arms Weird Problem with My New Leupold

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The POI at 50yds with a Leupold EFR
VX-3HD 6.5-20x40 on my new FX-King was a good 3” high even with the elevation adjustment down as far as it would go. So I switched it with the Meopta that was on my Air Arms S410. I took the AA to the range today to see if it too had the same problem using that Leupold scope. It worked just fine…I had to crank it back up to zero it at 25yds, and there was plenty of room both up and down after zeroing. The FX uses high rings on a picatinny, whereas the AA has medium high rings on an 11mm mount. Any ideas what’s going on here? All input is welcome. The attached pic is from the Air Arms/Leupold using 16gr JSB’s at 25yds.

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Height over bore, plus the smaller range of elevation movement means you simply maxed out your scope? The Lupy only has about 45moa of total adjustment? where many modern scopes have double or triple that. The Lupy is a target scope not a tactical knob twister so you will have to set it up as close to mechanical errector center as possible. This means you will need a set of adjustable rings most likely, since you will not be able to fit a canted one piece mount on the King.

ETA: I might have mixed this up backwards
 
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Sometimes you need a mount with some built-in cant, as @MongooseV8 indicated. The other option are adjustable rings. I have adjustable rings on several airguns, although my reason was to keep the scopes adjusted to optical center (they were used for Field Target and I needed maximum +/- adjustment in my elevation turret).
 
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If I'm reading this correctly, for your testing, you switched to a different gun (AA) to test the new scope (Leupold), not a different scope (Meopta) on the same gun (FX). What you should have done was put the Meopta on the FX to see if the same zeroing issue exists. I believe the FX has built in MOA cant on the rail, thus reducing the amount of elevation you have for short distance. I believe that is your issue. My apologies if I'm wrong.

EDIT: I type slow. The previous posters summed up what I was trying to say.
 
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Ta-Ta Toothie said:
The King has 30moa built into the rail.
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Ok this explains what I was missing in the equation. He has too much elevation built in the action to shoot "close" distances with a small elevation adjustable scope. Normally the issue is the opposite direction which was confusing my limited brain power. lol
 
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6gun said:
Or a 20 or 30 moa mount? I do love my eagle vision adjustable rings but it seems they're a bit rich for many user's blood here.
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I wouldn't get a mount, it's just going to jack it up higher. Adjustable rings would give him plenty of options and still be able to use the 30moa that's built in if needed.
 
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MongooseV8 said:
Ok this explains what I was missing in the equation. He has too much elevation built in the action to shoot "close" distances with a small elevation adjustable scope. Normally the issue is the opposite direction which was confusing my limited brain power. lol
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Think of the pellet path as a rainbow and the scope looks thru a particular section of that arcing trajectory. You can change the incline of the scope to I intersect the parts of the arc that you find optimal.
 
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MongooseV8 said:
Ok this explains what I was missing in the equation. He has too much elevation built in the action to shoot "close" distances with a small elevation adjustable scope. Normally the issue is the opposite direction which was confusing my limited brain power. lol
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Or, he could just shoot farther 🤣
 
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Ta-Ta Toothie said:
I wouldn't get a mount, it's just going to jack it up higher. Adjustable rings would give him plenty of options and still be able to use the 30moa that's built in if needed.
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Ya you usually have to get an integrated mount/rings deal or shorter rings to make it fit right. Depending on your tastes in optics this might be the only financially recoverable way to do it 😅
 
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6gun said:
Think of the pellet path as a rainbow and the scope looks thru a particular section of that arcing trajectory. You can change the incline of the scope to I intersect the parts of the arc that you find optimal.
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Well I am very familiar with all that, I just replied through reflex without realizing the OP problem is the opposite most people run into. Same issue, the wrong angles for the distance and projectile arc but this time its the direction you dont really run into these days.
 
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