@Headshots I’ve never used a Talos but I avoid scope with a battery compartment over the ocular bell.What do you think is the better scope , the Athlon Talos or the Vector Veyron ?
What do you think is the better scope , the Athlon Talos or the Vector Veyron ?
@UCChris I’ve read many good things about Athlon scopes. What was (were) your intended application(s) for the Veyron, Talos, and Argos scopes?
@UCChris I see. The Veyron 3-12x44 FFP is great for hunting with my EDgun Lelya 2.0 and Prod .22. They tick all the boxes for me other than a lack of IR. All that was needed was a throw lever and I installed some. No problems after replacing the crappy lens caps that come with them (they tend to fall off easily). FFP works great for me because I change magnification from transition to ranging to glassing to tracking to shooting. I seldom have time to look and see if the magnification has been set exactly to my optimal setting where I have holds memorized.
I enjoy hunting squirrels. When I hunt them I do some moving as do the squirrels, so distances change. I can’t see me having time to check a DOPE chart before taking a shot. I’m usually trying to be sure my shot is free of obstructions and I’m in a stable or comfortable shooting position. So an FFP saves me the trouble of only memorizing one set of holds for various distances. I don’t dial turrets and I’m mostly shooting targets to stay sharp for hunting. That’s my rationale behind my application. The compact scopes help keep the gun light for me and less length helps keep the scope from getting hung up on branches and vines as I move. These are things I consider when comparing and shopping for scopes.
The Veyron was a decent scope and I really liked it for the $150 I paid, but I would never pay $200+ for one after using Athlons.
Ok this is my conclusion on the 4-16x Vector Veyron FFP IR. I’ve been hunting with it and have used the IR in the woods during the evening on multiple days. Here it is mounted atop of a Huben for length reference.
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The center dot is the only thing consistently lightning up in the reticle. On its brightest setting it isn’t very bright. It isn’t too apparent while the sun is still up, but when it’s on the horizon I can see it. The problem is that at that point it’s tough to see the reticle against certain backdrops. I tend to hunt at 5-6x magnification with this scope. It could benefit from the installation of a throw lever. I haven’t installed one. The good thing is that it doesn’t seem to drain the battery too fast. I’ve left the IR on for about an hour on an hunt before turning it off and it had good juice on the next outing.
I tried to reproduce the effect of the entire reticle lighting up as I mentioned in a previous post. I was unable to do it again. I don’t know if the “lighting the entire reticle effect” was a result of parallax error or what. I do know that the 4-16x Vector Veyron FFp IR is not my first choice for what I want in the woods in low light or as the sun sets. In my opinion this scope is good for your point blank range in low light. I’ll have to give that a go before replacing it. Beyond that, finding your holds is a crap shoot in low light conditions. I should also note that the reticle doesn’t have the best windage markings. In conclusion, I don’t think that this scope is worth the money for my intended application of using the illuminated reticle for hunting in low light environments.
Its pretty new from SHOT this last time around, and its mostly "unavailable". But have you looked at the new Athlon Heras yet?Chris,
I'm with you on the Athlon turret clicks, and the glass quality.
And Athlon ticks usually most other boxes as well, especially for a turret dialer like me (zero stop, turret revolution counter, 10mil per turn, lots of elevation adjustment, etc.).
However: What I'm still waiting for is that the middle and upper middle players like Athlon give us some truly compact scopes.
Vector/ Discovery have done that with their their 3-12x and 4-16x Veyron's/ VT-3's.
I'd love to replace the Discovery VT-3 3-12x44 on my PP700 with an Athlon Helos 2-12x42. But the Helos' 1.8 inches (4.6cm) is quite a bit longer for scoping a long range pistol....
Still, that Helos is calling my name....Athlon is just a great brand.
Matthias
Its pretty new from SHOT this last time around, and its mostly "unavailable". But have you looked at the new Athlon Heras yet?
I like the looks of the reticle compared to the Helos
Its pretty new from SHOT this last time around, and its mostly "unavailable". But have you looked at the new Athlon Heras yet?