Vector Optics Veyron 3-12 SFP. IDK

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Florida_Man

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I'm up in the air on this one. The Vector have had some popularity. It is a nice size optic and the turrets are nice. I know going this small will create issue with clarity. I just expected more. This is at 12x, tape scale is about 20 yards away. I ran out of elevation at 30 yards. It is on a PP700SA 25 cal shooting 25gr @ 550 FPS.

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No problem. I understand that there are sacrifices. It becomes a huge issue because I ran out of elevation and have to try and use holdover. Once I do that my target is too obscured by the aberration its not usable.

I requested a refund, I will see what happens from Vector Optics. If I'm stuck with it, it will go on a 2240 build. I will just put a 20moa rail on to get some elevation. I couldn't even bring myself to selling this to another person.
 
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I am not running into this issue, and I have multiple of these both in SFP and FFP formats. 

I am only using them on compact ground squirrel hunting guns, where the majority of work is inside 50 yards (with only very occasional shots out to maybe 65-70 yards).

The Veyrons are just slightly behind the optical clarity and brightness of the Optisan CP 3-12 in my personal opinion, but remain very usable for my needs.

I hate to say this but I 'hope' you just got a bad one. And in that case hopefully Vector Optics (or your vendor) will replace it with another and you may then be able to judge the quality of these in a different light.

Good luck!
 
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If the turret is maxed out running out of elevation then the image quality goes bad.

Is it still terrible when both turrets are set at half way?

If the rings are mounted too close to the turrets or over tightened that may negatively hinder total turret travel giving you less than maximum adjustment. Same goes with the rings too close to the eye piece may limit zoom as well.

Try shooting with out the silencer and see if it was too heavy. Use a different lighter silencer that won't weigh down the end of the barrel. Carbon fibre or 3d printed or plastic.

Try removing the front barrel band and see if that helps.

Can try wedging some thing up front for separation between barrel and air tube at the fill end. Pointing the barrel a little upwards. Folded up piece of card board just to see.

Is the scope rail riser adapter pushing down onto the barrel? Can slide a piece of paper in between?

Try removing the scope rail adapter and rings then reinstall then flip the rings the other way and also switch front to rear.

That photo looks like the front ring top crooked and both ring gaps un even. Don't over tighten.

Can also try different rings or better yet preferably adjustable ones.

Shorter rings making the scope closer to the barrel may help too.

Some folks may tell you to bend your barrel pointing it upwards. Shouldn't hurt accuracy.

Some may tell you to shim the rear of the scope which I often cringe reading about. Make a note to never buy a used scope from them.

Barrel droop can be found on most air guns regardless of brand or power plant or free floating or fixed barrel. It is part of air gun life.

It is lucky to get it perfect and just mount a scope and not need to adjust the scope elevation to zero.

This Is why some air gun manufacturers have 20 moa scope rails on their guns specifically to compensate for barrel droop so you won't need to max out your elevation turret just to zero it.






 
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Is it still terrible when both turrets are set at half way?

I will look later

If the rings are mounted too close to the turrets or over tightened that may negatively hinder total turret travel giving you less than maximum adjustment. Same goes with the rings too close to the eye piece may limit zoom as well.

They are not too tight, they are 10 in/lb.

Try shooting with out the silencer and see if it was too heavy. Use a different lighter silencer that won't weigh down the end of the barrel. Carbon fibre or 3d printed or plastic.

The rifle worked fine with my Hawke scopes, its not the weight. The barrel has a CF sleeve over it that is makes the barrel ridged by the muzzle nut tightening on, much like a stock PP700SA

Try removing the front barrel band and see if that helps.

The barrel band puts pressure on the air res, nothing really on the barrel.

Can try wedging some thing up front for separation between barrel and air tube at the fill end. Pointing the barrel a little upwards. Folded up piece of card board just to see.

I'll go to a 20MOA rail before I wedge anything. The PP700 barrels can rotate at the breech, so this is not a reliable method.

Is the scope rail riser adapter pushing down onto the barrel? Can slide a piece of paper in between?

It doesn't touch the barrel, its all attached to the action.

Try removing the scope rail adapter and rings then reinstall then flip the rings the other way and also switch front to rear.

It's on there that way to provide proper eye relief, turning it will vet out the problem, but will make it unusable with eye relief. It also worked without issue with another scope.

That photo looks like the front ring top crooked and both ring gaps un even. Don't over tighten.

They are at 10 in/lbs

Can also try different rings or better yet preferably adjustable ones.

They are Vector mounts. They are not great, but they worked fine with my Hawke.

Shorter rings making the scope closer to the barrel may help too.

Sounding repetitive, they worked with my Hawke. I also need the height for proper eye alignment.

Some folks may tell you to bend your barrel pointing it upwards. Shouldn't hurt accuracy.

Not doing that.

Some may tell you to shim the rear of the scope which I often cringe reading about. Make a note to never buy a used scope from them.

No shims for me

Barrel droop can be found on most air guns regardless of brand or power plant or free floating or fixed barrel. It is part of air gun life.

Wasn't an issue with my Hawke. Something is up with the Vector scope. I have an indictor mark for barrel position since it can rotate. I check it. I also tried turning the barrel to see if there is a change. There wasn't anything detectable at the distance I shoot with it.

It is lucky to get it perfect and just mount a scope and not need to adjust the scope elevation to zero.

This Is why some air gun manufacturers have 20 moa scope rails on their guns specifically to compensate for barrel droop so you won't need to max out your elevation turret just to zero it.

I have a 20 MOA arriving today. It still doesn't solve the poor glass quality.
 
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Florida Man,

I have the same gun with the same scope (the Discovery iteration of your Vector).

And dial my shots to 60 and 70y no prob.... (yupp, in .22cal).



🔹Two differences: You're shooting very heavy pellets, with a very weak gun (weak for caliber and pellet weight). 😊

And a 20 moa rail or adjustable mounts are often needed for airguns since our pellets drop so quickly....



🔹 The scope acc. to the mfctr. has about 60 moa of elevation adjustment. But you can only use about half of that if the scope is installed without a 20moa cant, or adjustable rings. And a 25 grainer from such a short barrel — i.e., with such a low muzzle velocity — will get you to that limit at very close ranges.

You could try lighter pellets, but at 25gr in .25cal there isn't much below that... 



🔹 If your 20 moa rail doesn't do the trick, you could combine it with some adjustable mounts...: I'll attach a adjustable scope mounts and rail spect table with some options.



Hope you get the scope and gun perform how you want it! 👍🏼

Cheers,

Matthias



Attachment: Scope Mounting Table 30mm

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View attachment SCOPE Mounting Table.1641878983.pdf


 
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I have and Artemis pp700sa same issue with a pistol scope had to use cant. I gave up and now using red dot. so much better.
It hard to get close range. I have a 1022 charger and I use a ohhunt 3-12 scope and it works great paralax down to 3 yards.
I also just bought a vector veyron 6-24x44 and at first I though it was a bust. You have to use a rubber band or piece of rubber and unscrew the diaopter lens at the front. I thought mine was screwed in like your in the picture. Also the reticle is faint but workable. My biggest issue with scope is the eye relief
see my post "one ring" The eye relief is close I don't have enough room to move the scope back that I can only use on scope ring.
I have no idea what to do but its good i shoot from bench and its a 22.
 
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Barzor said:
I have and Artemis pp700sa same issue with a pistol scope had to use cant. I gave up and now using red dot. so much better.
It hard to get close range. I have a 1022 charger and I use a ohhunt 3-12 scope and it works great paralax down to 3 yards.
I also just bought a vector veyron 6-24x44 and at first I though it was a bust. You have to use a rubber band or piece of rubber and unscrew the diaopter lens at the front. I thought mine was screwed in like your in the picture. Also the reticle is faint but workable. My biggest issue with scope is the eye relief
see my post "one ring" The eye relief is close I don't have enough room to move the scope back that I can only use on scope ring.
I have no idea what to do but its good i shoot from bench and its a 22.
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Barzor,
I recently vector veryon 4-16 ×44 from Edgunwest and had the same issue with the diaopter. While comunicating with Brian (possibly the owner) he mentioned that he specifically orders them with it tightend and suggested that I open it the same way as a jar. He objected to my first thought which was to tap it hard on a solid surface, I did get it to loosen up with a compression jar opener. While mine is not a 6-24, I am just about to get it mounted in the next day or two and seeing your photos I am now concerned about the possible eye relief issue I am hoping to make it work and will follow your results.
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@Florida_Man I see many other SFP scopes that I would try to pair with an airgun around the price range of a Vector scope. I’m personally only using Vector FFP compact scopes and that’s for close to mid-range small-game hunting.

What’s your intended use for this scope? What prompted you to purchase this specific SFP Vector Optics scope above other SFP scopes?
 
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Florida_Man said:
I'm up in the air on this one. The Vector have had some popularity. It is a nice size optic and the turrets are nice. I know going this small will create issue with clarity. I just expected more. This is at 12x, tape scale is about 20 yards away. I ran out of elevation at 30 yards. It is on a PP700SA 25 cal shooting 25gr @ 550 FPS.

I had the same problem. Air Arms Prosport. 25 yards run out of elevation on turrets. Changed mounts to Sportsmatch and all ok

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