Two scope choices

[dens228]

I'm a long time firearms hunter but usually in some pretty thick woods where 100 yards is a long shot. But I am new to the high powered air rifle scene and recently purchased a Brocock Sniper XR Magnum .25 cal.

It's mainly for backyard shooting and pest control, most shots will be 30 yards and under for pesting and also at night with a predator light. There will be times I'm shooting out to 100 yards at most. 

I am looking to put a better scope on it and have it narrowed down to two scopes in two price ranges. 

Scope one is the Vortex Optics Crossfire II 6-18x44 AO, SFP for $219

Scope two is the Element Optics Helix 6-24x50 SFP for $399

I don't mind spending the additional $$'s on the Element is worth it for the type of shooting I'm doing. 

I'm just looking for feedback from those with more experience than me. 

 

[JamesD.]

You're going to want a Illuminated windage tree. Pellets & slugs definitely are affected by wind and we shoot for placement, not counting on hydrostatic shock. 
I'm just a target shooter and don't really care about big power but if you're going to get into it, that's the reticle I would buy. Fine illuminated & I personally prefer 2ndFP because I can just dial magnification down and hit Eng Sparrows while keeping my 35-40 yard zero. I only click for slugs out past 150.

Welcome to Airguns

 

[cmatera]

I have an Element Helix 6-24 SFP. Like it a lot.

 

[bubblerboy64]

You certainly don’t need 24 power BUT if you are anything like me you will likely swap scopes to other rifles . With that as my only consideration (it’s future use) I’d probably buy the element scope.

 

[SCmaddness]

I have an element Helix and I love it. I have the SFP because it's perfect for 100 yards. Even on my firearms, I don't really shoot beyond 300 yards and I can just transfer the scope from Airgun to firearm it's pretty great. The only other scope id recommend is a Hawke Sidewinder bu that's even more than the Helix. 

 

[dens228]

Well it looks like the Element will be the one.....

Thanks for the input. 

 

[madeintheuk]

I’ll chime in as the only one so far that seems to have the vortex. Now I can’t speak to the scope on a pcp, but I have it on my tx200, and I have to say, I can’t trust it at all. My poi shifts frequently, and I have to constantly rezero the scope. I recently tried using my fathers centerpoint Wally World special on the same gun, and alas, it is not my shooting that is the problem. When I contacted vortex before buying this scope, I asked if it was magnum springer rated, to which they said absolutely yes. 
now their warranty is top notch, but I feel it’s needed due to the lack of ridgidity to their products. 
I would chose the helix. Good luck!

 

[dens228]

Helix ordered.........Gets here Friday. 

 

[dens228]

I received the Element yesterday and mounted on the rifle.

Very nice scope. I was hoping to sight it in today but need the 40 mph wind gusts to stop.......

 

[cmatera]

I ordered a second one yesterday, and went out today shooting the one I have. It reaffirmed that it was a good decision.

 

[Dairyboy]

Glad you like it! I had one of the first ones in SFP and was underwhelmed by it. Was really excited for it but found it to be hyped up. Glass was decent, center dot was way too big and turrets had some mush to them. Got sent back right away. Again it was one of the first ones and I heard they changed a few minor things since then. 

 

[cmatera]

Yes they did, on both the ffp and sfp. Yes, the glass is decent. The center dot is perfect for my 65 year old eyes. I’ve sold way more scopes because the reticle was too fine than too heavy. The turrets on mine are accurate, positive and audible.

 

[shoot44]

Really like the Helix SFP on on my Bantam HR Magnum. Only complaint is eye relief. Solved that by placing the scope as far forward as possible and adding a 1/2 spacer to the recoil pad. Made the spacer from 1/2 balsa with black electrical tape glued to it. Near perfect color match. The extra 1/2 inch also helped with my trigger pull length.

Notice the front ring is very close to the turrets. Tried that with a cheap scope and it locked up the parallax turret - this one works fine.

 

[cmatera]

I had the same problem, not enough eye relief, but it was the gun (4 1/4" rail) not the scope. Contacted the guy I bought the gun from, he had the same problem. The solution in my case, was a $40 cantilever mount that gets the scope farther forward.

 

[dens228]

I had no issues with mounting and eye relief but was a bit surprised on how far forward I ended up mounting it. 

Finally got it zeroed in today. So far I'm loving it. As directed I removed the zero stop ring for the process and I doubt I'll put it back as I don't think I'll be adjusting turrets much if any at all. Even then it'll be fine tuning. 

 

[shoot44]

I think this scope's accurate turrets are one its major pluses and use them all the time. I zeroed mine out with the pellet, range and power setting I use the most. As one of these things change I click the turrets and write down their values inside the pellet tin lid.

I'm with you on not using the zero stop ring cause I click up and down. Since the turrets have marks for full revolutions I don't have to worry about getting off track.