Two HW50s, Two HW35Es and an R9.

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Fischer

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I've had the HW50 in .177, .20, .22.

I have the HW35E in two .177s (Silver and Blue) and the .22 is Blue!

I have two HW50s now after letting the .177 and .22 go feeling the .22 was the better choice of the two calibers but having a velocity not quite enough to impress me downrange around the 35 yard mark.

The Beeman R9 is in .177 and a bit lower powered than my HW98 .177--but to be honest it is a beautiful GOLDEN rifle with BEEMAN emblazoned on it while the HW98s and HW95Ls are SILVER instead of GOLD!

Well, Beeman gave up his own air rifle dream which got transferred to Santa Rosa Huntington Beach and now Air Venturi in Ohio. No R1 Beeman's are new today and those owning them think they have the end of a dream but HW made THOSE rifles in the first place so the HW80 and HW97 and HW57 and HW77 and HW35E and HW50 and whatever else like the HW30 are out there to give us what Beeman gave us in the 80s.

Today owning an air rifle is getting problematic in the face of firearm tragedies occurring all over the US.

Firearms ARE on the way OUT! 

This is GOOD NEWS to me! I can take my air rifle out the back porch and shoot without going to a range or paying or driving.

The air rifles I have now are beginning to outnumber the firearms I have.

If the US wants to take away my firearms I'm ok with it.

They might begin to start with air rifles like springers sometime in the foreseeable future; but if that should happen then I know which air rifles to keep and explain to the US government target rifles and their meaning in the air gun world.

I'd show the HW98s and the D54 .20 and the HW50s and the HW35Es and even the ludicrously embellished Beeman R9 rifle to the point it's a "Weatherby" with ornate stuff to make it "pleasing" but to me leave me the HW98 .177 and the D54 .20 built by a man.






 
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I've had the HW50 in .177, .20, .22.

I have the HW35E in two .177s (Silver and Blue) and the .22 is Blue!

I have two HW50s now after letting the .177 and .22 go feeling the .22 was the better choice of the two calibers but having a velocity not quite enough to impress me downrange around the 35 yard mark.

The Beeman R9 is in .177 and a bit lower powered than my HW98 .177--but to be honest it is a beautiful GOLDEN rifle with BEEMAN emblazoned on it while the HW98s and HW95Ls are SILVER instead of GOLD!

Well, Beeman gave up his own air rifle dream which got transferred to Santa Rosa Huntington Beach and now Air Venturi in Ohio. No R1 Beeman's are new today and those owning them think they have the end of a dream but HW made THOSE rifles in the first place so the HW80 and HW97 and HW57 and HW77 and HW35E and HW50 and whatever else like the HW30 are out there to give us what Beeman gave us in the 80s.

Today owning an air rifle is getting problematic in the face of firearm tragedies occurring all over the US.

Firearms ARE on the way OUT! 

This is GOOD NEWS to me! I can take my air rifle out the back porch and shoot without going to a range or paying or driving.

The air rifles I have now are beginning to outnumber the firearms I have.

If the US wants to take away my firearms I'm ok with it.

They might begin to start with air rifles like springers sometime in the foreseeable future; but if that should happen then I know which air rifles to keep and explain to the US government target rifles and their meaning in the air gun world.

I'd show the HW98s and the D54 .20 and the HW50s and the HW35Es and even the ludicrously embellished Beeman R9 rifle to the point it's a "Weatherby" with ornate stuff to make it "pleasing" but to me leave me the HW98 .177 and the D54 .20 built by a man.





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It's not good news for anyone in America, because your personal freedom will be right behind it. 
 
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Your ok with the government taking away your firearms and you think that is "good news"?

Take a look at anyplace in the U.S or abroad that has heavy restrictions or complete bans on firearms and you will also see heavy restrictions or total ban on air guns as well.

Try buying an air gun in New Jersey , New York City or Washington D.C. I think Massachusetts also has heavy regulations on air guns too and I'm sure their are more places in the U.S that do as well.They banned all firearms AND air guns in china. And of course talk to some AGN members that live in Canada, England and the rest of Europe. They will tell you that you are dreaming if you think the politicians will leave us alone.
 
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https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/840634/Ban-kitchen-knives-pointed-doctor-deadly-knife-crime

A couple years ago there was a big push in the UK to ban pointy kitchen knives. There is no way they will stop the bans at firearms. It’s also possible they could come through the back door and start the bans with air rifles and work their way up to firearms.

Most mass shootings are mental health related. The vast majority of the rest of gun crime is drug/gang related, domestic violence, and suicide. Drug dealers and gangs will still commit violence without guns. Domestic violence murders and suicide will still happen without guns. Prisoners don’t have problems killing each other without guns. There are no statistics for how much crime is prevented through legal gun ownership. 
 
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We def don't need to pop a vein from OP's post as not sure where his/her logic is, hence left my initial response mild. Maybe the acct is real, maybe its not; perhaps a young person entering into the scene, or an older person who's been drinking too much from the same water hose. Would be good to see a response or an acknowledgment from OP to the conversation. If OP's mind is fixed on his/her beliefs and understanding, then conversation is done.
 
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Yes. Things have changed since and division is appearing in places we wouldn't expect.

Be careful of the airgun site you sign in to.

I know spiral groove and mark and a few others but the HW50s that were requested which AOA delivered were the best performing air rifles from the start in .20.

Go back to the biased PCP forum with manny and tell him he is a real good salesman!
 
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It's me. I believe in the air spring over the PCP and PCP guys shouldn't be arguing with me when I post the bias to air spring.

For me, the springer break barrel is the best for the money. Whether locked like HW35E or shut like HW50 or HW98, HW95 different but locked better than an R7.

The E's have it for longevity and training.

The 50s have it for the combination of lightness and solid lock up in the field with consistent accuracy in .177, .20, .22 for many including me; but when owning all three and seeing what I could do with an open sighted HW50 the .20 JSB Exact 13.73 grain maybe losing a couple pounds in the arrangement of the .20 HW98 can be left home!

Not quite. The 98s tell the full story and the HW50 tells .20 is best.

The HW98s tell .177, 20, .25 is best but mine are all those and they never are wrong no matter what I do with whatever pellet.


 
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No. That is quite the point. I haven't bought a firearm since 2017 but own some and now own and care more about the air rifle than the powder ones.

It's because to me the air gun is precision with the least amount of fuss and noise.

We have handguns in air better made than the "best" brands in powder black or smokeless.

We have rifles better made than the best brands in powder anywhere.

We use hollow ammunition called aerodynamic pellets to shoot from .177 to .25 easily in a springer of whatever power.

Unless you are hunting bear or moose or deer or elephant or tiger or rhino or lion or wildebeest the powder isn't needed for a rifleman able to use the pellet with the right amount amount of power.

If the government comes "to take away your guns" it will be at the most a process to keep track of WHAT YOU HAVE NOW and whether you will be able to get another firearm under new conditions.

That's all.




 
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Sounds like would make good conversation for sure. Each man is entitled to his opinion if one car is better than another; or car vs truck, etc. However I think you lost us (at least me) in your initial post where you're ok with them taking it all from you just long as they leave your springers (for target) alone; and that no one needs pcps or PB's unless there's a REAL hunting need. 2A and politics, aside... why do we need/have more anything outside of basic needs?? ....cuz it's Land of The Free! Simple as that.
 
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Maybe he or she who has said "from another forum" is here now monitoring a simple exchange HERE about AIR and why AIR is not the subject to worry about in "taking away all yur' guns" with whatever else you think they care about.

If they care enough about guns to take them away then why act as if you should never allow it on your property or until a "dead finger" is wrapped around a firearm "they" came to take away!

Think anyone cares about what you can do with an air gun once the firearms are restricted to the point you have to go to a place and "check them out" under police control?

I used to do THAT in the 70s in college in Nevada! Check your firearms into the campus police station and use them 24-7 under their log.

What is the big deal?

About other forums there's only a few air forums around here.

It depends upon who OWNS the forum. Not the logistics of being outspoken on certain matters. You may offend the OWNER of the forum who pays for the right to have the airspace through certain advertising where the ads and even the forum speakers own the air net to keep it alive.

It was simple to realize the other forum I was on was owned and managed by other than bias to PCPs. And it was supposed to be pathway to ALL air gun enthusiasts.
 
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