Trigger pull

[Rawroots]

I was trying ammo that my new reign bullpup may agree with, first stage on trigger is tuff, and first thoughts were this gun was pellet picky. So i tried different holds , then i tried pulling trigger without cocking the gun, i couldn't believe how much i was pulling it off target. So still without cocking i tried different trigger pulls, here is two pics and i found out this gun shoots 75% of what ever i feed it. Even slugs. Really like it.

 

[GeneT]

Firearms guru Jeff Cooper described that in one of his books ("To Ride, Shoot Straight, and Speak the Truth"?) as the 'pinch" and said he used it when the firearm had a particularly terrible trigger. You can learn to do the same thing with a conventional grip, but it's certainly useful for isolating the problem. You may also be able to improve the trigger on your rifle, but I can't offer any specifics there.

Congrats on the discovery!

GsT

 

[Marley5]

 less contact " pinch " shooting is like scratching a chalkboard but makes sense in a lot of arenas. A 2lb trigger may reduce the need. Idk

 

[elh0102]

 Regarding trigger pull, it's all practice. Some horrible triggers are used quite well by shooters trained with them, military for example. And as you have found, dryfiring is great training. 

 

[MikeVV]

Simple fix...

1. Remove the right side of the stock.

2. Obtain a ball point pen that uses a spring. Remove the spring. Cut about 1/4 of the spring length off, set aside.

3. Using a small flat bladed screwdriver, remove the trigger spring. It's black (mine was), that sits just above the trigger. Cover it with your free hand so If it "pops" out, you'll catch it.

4. Using the same small screwdriver, install the longer piece of the pens spring, into the pocket. Note, you "may" have to remove a little more spring to get it properly seated.

5. Add a little light oil to ALL pivot points visible.

6. Reinstall the stock half.

Problem fixed. Makes a big difference.



Mike

 

[Rawroots]

Thanks Mike it's going to get that done, thanks for taking the time, also I'll bet this hold will tell me if other rifles could use some help, what a difference wow.

 

[Rawroots]

Darn it started raining, but this pic shows the best of five targets on left and first try with finger tip hold on right, forty yards away , let us know if anybody else benefits from this trigger pinch.

 

[dizzums]

i'd work on that trigger until it goes off when you look at it the wrong way lol ...

 

[KWK]

That's why some like a "thumb up" grip but it's not so easy for pistol grip stocks there's no "up" place for your thumb.

 

[John "spysir" Blount]

That's why some like a "thumb up" grip but it's not so easy for pistol grip stocks there's no "up" place for your thumb.

Yes u, like that. Thumb up and a trigger under 6oz makes everything better. Naturally only works for a target rig & not tacticool or such. 

Pinch that trigger.



John

 

[MikeVV]

Another way of holding...some grips, and the Reign is one of them. Put you thumb on the same side of the grip as the rest of your hand.

The grip design on some guns don't comfortably allow this though.

Put your thumb on the same side of the grip as the rest of your hand, kind of like if the grip had one of those California, wings on the back of the grip. If you don't fight the different feeling, it really is comfortable once you get used to it.. Also like the grip below. It actually has a shelf to set your thumb on.

https://www.anarchyoutdoors.com/penguin-precision-rifle-grip/

Mike

 

[Rawroots]

Mike i finished the ink pen spring on the trigger and it took about 10 shots to get used to the new trigger, now its hard to find ammo this walther reign doesn't like, thanks mike.

 

[Deleted member 35887]

I hear that! On my old Mauser 7BR bench gun I started cast bullet benchrest with a Sako trigger the previous owned installed and adjusted to about 8 ounces. It had a Unertl on it and I was getting a lot of flyers so I tried a Tasco 36x bench scope. I tested the same thing as you with that trigger and found out how nasty my trigger control was. Started working on shooting free-recoil and paying attention to any lateral crosshair movement and when I stopped using that gun with Sierra MK's I was shooting agg's in club matches bouncing between .3 and .4" for five 5 shot groups. 

 

[Deleted member 35887]

Speaking of free-recoil, does anyone shoot this way and have a heavy enough gun and light enough trigger to make it effective for airguns?

 

[elh0102]

Speaking of free-recoil, does anyone shoot this way and have a heavy enough gun and light enough trigger to make it effective for airguns?

I shot free recoil off and on when shooting centerfire BR. I see no reason it could not be used effectively with air rifle. It requires a good fit of rifle stock on the front and rear rests. Given the much lower velocity of the air rifle, any inconsistency of rifle movement would be further exaggerated. Give it a try.

 

[uhfradarwill]

The trigger lesson starts around 4:40.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY5bFGCDK-o&t=542s