I wanted a bull pup but got a good deal on an fx streamline which is more traditional length and I’m wondering if I’m looking too hard into my regret. I haven’t even gotten it yet but am wondering if I’ll wish I had spent more on a bull pup when I’m hunting in the woods. Or will the fun of hunting with my new air rifle overshadow and nitpicking over length? What say you
Traditional or bull pup for hunting
- Thread starter jooleyen
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Over the last 40 years I’ve never seen any bullpups while deer hunting. Never seen any while squirrel or groundhog hunting either. You’ll be fine with the Streamline. Someday when you’re ready to make things more difficult on yourself in the name of compactness, try a bullpup.
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Haha great point. Never thought of it like that. The only other situation I can think of is shooting from inside house windows where space can be tight at times. I could see a bull pup being handy there
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Always keep a traditional air rifle in your inventory to remind yourself just how good you are capable of shooting. When your budget allows, then get the odd stuff like bullpups, Leshiy’s and pistols turned into weird little carbines. They are all fun and can have a purpose.
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Oh and just remember, you’ll never shoot a hole in your window or window frame with a rifle. But you can with a bullpup because your barrel is still in the house and your scope is mounted higher than it is on a rifle. Good thing I’m not married anymore. 
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I hunt pests from the truck and ATV. The bullpup is a lot more handy than the traditional rifle, Marauder in my case.
Your taste may vary. I suggest that you Scope that new rifle and go shoot it. Don't worry about how it looks. The view through the scope is the same.
Your taste may vary. I suggest that you Scope that new rifle and go shoot it. Don't worry about how it looks. The view through the scope is the same.
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Patients grasshopper, you have entered the dark abyss known to many as the dark side. There will be many rifles in your future. In the meantime run what you have and enjoy.
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If you are hunting where the difference in length matters, you are in some mighty thick stuff! It's ironic, the woods environment in which the shorter bull pup length is espoused, is also an environment in which it is noticeably more difficult to shoot well. I have a Taipan Veteran, and I admire its simple design, robust construction, and accuracy. But if I were choosing an air rifle to take hunting, it would be either my FX Royale 400 or Daystate Revere. To quote an unknown source, a bull pup is, "the perfect solution to a nonexistent problem".
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I'd say bullpups for the win but it's a moot point as you've already bought a Streamline.
Well... maybe not a moot point after all; There's always PCP #2, 3, 4 etc
Well... maybe not a moot point after all; There's always PCP #2, 3, 4 etc
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I agree with @Matt247365
There's a reason that a lot (majority?) of the high end guns these days (Impact, Taipan, Caiman, Uragan, Vulcan, Matador, etc) are either bullpup or semi-bullpup. You get more air capacity and a longer barrel in a short package. That way you get higher shot count, impressive power, and have room to mount a nice moderator without it getting too long. Honestly, after buying my first bullpup a couple years ago, I won't ever buy a Sporter for hunting again, unless I'm building a long range slug gun off a Condor platform or something. But for traditional airgun hunting, the pups have ruined me!
There's a reason that a lot (majority?) of the high end guns these days (Impact, Taipan, Caiman, Uragan, Vulcan, Matador, etc) are either bullpup or semi-bullpup. You get more air capacity and a longer barrel in a short package. That way you get higher shot count, impressive power, and have room to mount a nice moderator without it getting too long. Honestly, after buying my first bullpup a couple years ago, I won't ever buy a Sporter for hunting again, unless I'm building a long range slug gun off a Condor platform or something. But for traditional airgun hunting, the pups have ruined me!
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Nice people saying bad things, about bullpups, and I still like their threads and posts.
Folks like ehl0102 and vetmx are awesome contributors here and one should seriously listen to their opinion.
I am VERY likely to plink from a pickup or sedan, in rainy Oregon, and the Taipan Veteran Long BP solves that problem.
If I could buy the TaipanVL in a conventional rifle form, not BP, I would in a heartbeat but I'd have BOTH.
There's a bajilion different "hunting' pcp rifles and as much as I read this forum, dealer sites, and manufacturer sites I am still riddled on my next higher power .25 purchase.
Folks like ehl0102 and vetmx are awesome contributors here and one should seriously listen to their opinion.
I am VERY likely to plink from a pickup or sedan, in rainy Oregon, and the Taipan Veteran Long BP solves that problem.
If I could buy the TaipanVL in a conventional rifle form, not BP, I would in a heartbeat but I'd have BOTH.
There's a bajilion different "hunting' pcp rifles and as much as I read this forum, dealer sites, and manufacturer sites I am still riddled on my next higher power .25 purchase.
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I'd say bullpups for the win but it's a moot point as you've already bought a Streamline.
Well... maybe not a moot point after all; There's always PCP #2, 3, 4 etc
I sure like the forestock grip tape on the second one down, nice work and it looks natural. Is the third one down a factory black or did you paint it?
It's hit-n-miss on Taipan beech stocks, I reckon, and I missed so instead of buying a laminated I "painted' mine with black bedliner. If mine had some decent grain i would have refinished it. When I sanded mine down for paint prep the wood was light-colored and maybe worth a re-finishing. I went with bedliner and love its durability and stealthyness. LOTS of dead ground squirrel!
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This is some of the best advice I've seen on AGN in a while (emphasis added by me). Spot on. Plus 1 accuracy point for Vetmx.
I have gotten to the point where I can shoot bullpups pretty well, but I still shoot traditionally stocked rifles better. Sometimes the accuracy is similar, but achieving it with a bullpup takes more work (for me), and sometimes I just want to shoot without having to work really hard at it! Ultimate accuracy is also so important on the hunt, for a humane dispatch.
The Streamline is a good, handy rifle which is not overly long. I think you made a good choice.
And anyway, we all know that your Streamline will not be your last air rifle purchase!
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I'll counter that by saying that I have sold all of my traditional, read
utdated, rifles and now only own Taipans.SOLD:
- HW97
- R9
- TX200 HC
- Marauder
I don't understand it when someone says it's difficult to shoot a bullpup.
I really don't...
To each their own I guess
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youll be alright .. truth is traditional style guns have been around for hundreds of years because its the best overall functional design .. a bullpup is more of a specialty design and can work better and be faster on target in tight mostly close quarter nutter combat .. but yeah, snowflakes showing out a bullpup with high tech this and that and bipods and everything else are just mommas boys looking for someone to validate their inexperienced pathetic bs lol ... a long gun is better almost always ...
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I don't understand it when someone says it's difficult to shoot a bullpup.
I really don't...
To each their own I guess
Matt, I believe it is a matter of perspective and personal preference. I know of few people who shoot either from position, or improvised rests, who do not find the bull pup relatively more difficult to shoot than a traditional, full length rifle. And it's due to two basic geometrical features, most bull pups place less weight in front, and have a higher center of gravity, both of which most folks find more challenging to handle. A third factor for me, many BPs, like the Veteran I love, have a forend design that makes using the side of a tree for support a bit awkward, and this is how I shoot 90% of the time in the woods. I also prefer something a bit lighter than my Veteran, as I have a torn rotator cuff that is limiting. All of this assumes some type of position or hunting use. Obviously, from the bench, anything can be supported in a manner that works well. I would not say a bull pup is difficult to shoot, in an absolute sense, but it is relatively more difficult for me than a full length rifle. I totally agree with your closing, it is very much a personal preference.
Ed
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For me, the optimal length of a pellet rifle is among 35" and 39".
Vulcan 2 Tactical and Brocock Snipers have the perfect length.
The Vulcans come from factory with the perfect setting to start shooting. In my case the Bantam required a lot of amendments to become a favorite.
Daystate Regal XL and Wolverine (not HP) are in the perfect length also. Also more accurate than you out of the box.
Vulcan 2 Tactical and Brocock Snipers have the perfect length.
The Vulcans come from factory with the perfect setting to start shooting. In my case the Bantam required a lot of amendments to become a favorite.
Daystate Regal XL and Wolverine (not HP) are in the perfect length also. Also more accurate than you out of the box.
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I would have put a laughing emoji here after that comment, but looks like they are at least temporarily disabled! ;>(
Like everything else in this world, different strokes for different folks. And one wonderful thing about air gunning is all of the different pistol, pistol/carbine, carbine, bullpup & rifle formats for us to choose from to provide so many choices for personal preferences, and differing use scenarios.
What is the perfect number of air rifles to own? The answer is the same for these as it is for so many of our other hobby activities - One more than you currently own!
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