To upgrade or not to upgrade. That is the question.

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If you compare upgrading computer parts, like graphics cards, or cpu`s, which also comes with new models every year or so, a good advise can be to skip over every seccond model each time you buy a new. So if you have mk1, you can buy mk3. If you have mk2, you wait for mk4 and so on. So every time you then upgrade, the difference will be bigger, than going for the latest every year:) 
 
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bandg, " so, never buy" ect

I read and reread my comment, I do not see where I allude to that thinking.

I will attempt to clarify.

If one is wanting the latest Impact, "M3" with it's full potential of 300 bar (and the difference that will make) you may want to wait a while as FX have indicated the 300bar bottle will be fitted as standard at some time.



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Understood. Seems that implications often accompany opinions here and I was making an assumption about what you were suggesting. Apologies if that wasn't your intent. I guess one COULD buy the current MK3 and upgrade the bottle later? But yes, "rolling" and more cost.
 
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"That's hard to say but most likely not." 

Completely valid OPINION. FOR YOU. Not necessarily for ANYONE else.

"I didn't need the M3 but had the impulse opportunity to buy one so I did"

Now that appears to be a factual statement based on your experience. Two completely different things, opinion and fact. If I purchase an M3, it will no longer be on "impulse". I've considered what has been presented. All relative.
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Kind of harsh to call someone out for stating their opinion. Every one of us gives our opinion on web forums such as these, based on our personal experience and needs, shooting style, etc. And yes, all the opinions stated are going to be relative. And thoughtful folks, such as yourself, will assess those stated opinions and determine how they apply to ones personal needs/wants.

And, of course, we always have to remember that the free advice and opinions we get off the Interwebs are worth every penny we pay for them...
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Agree. But "most likely not" seems pretty presumptive to me, especially considering the oh so individual subject of COST/VALUE. And I DID point out, valid for HIM. I try to apply simple logic to things, fact or stated opinion. Maybe I'm being a bit to "particular" here but that's just me. Probably always will be that way because it's easy to "shade" a statement couched in opinion. I prefer clear statement of fact and indication of opinion. No offense intended to you or the other poster but that's the way I am.
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Yes, the "most likely not" referred only to ME. To me, the differences between the M3 and MkII aren't worth $500 - but, again, it's all completely subjective.
 
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If you have the means and the funds to do so it is probly worth the upgrade. If not it's probly not it's that simple. After all worth is an extremely subjective thing for each of us.

I have a Gen1.5 Impact-X and have taken the time and effort to keep as much of it upgraded to the MKll specs as possible. With the exception of the AMP reg I have done very well. It easily shot the 36.2 NSA slugs at 85fpe. Although for accuracy reasons I had it tuned to 74fpe. The gun literally shoots lights out in whatever caliber I choose to tune it in. Still with all the upgrades in the M3 it is now impossible for me to continue on with my MK1 upgrade insanity, cuz it plainly can't be done in any sort of an economical manner, so I purchased an M3.

Is it a better gun than the MKl and MKll well yes a little for all of the reasons already mentioned. But the gun does not negate the worth of nor detract in any useful way from the other two models in the least. It is just simply a more refined unit. I doubt very much that it will ever out shoot my Gen1.5 gun as it often as not shot .5 inch groups at 100 yards when in the .25 caliber. But it will be easier to tune. Which is something I will appreciate very much as I change projectiles and calibers so often. Since I will be using some of same liners that I have on my Gen1 I expect it to shoot equally as well but I really don't see allot of room for improvement.
 
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M3 this m3 that. That is all I see on here now. Also Matt, Ernest, South Africa Boys, Utah airgun, all they talk about now is how good their m3 is. Whatever happen to all their mk2? o_O they toss in the trash? Lol. Back to topic. All this m3 is making me think. Should I upgrade to the m3 or nah? I own a mk2 impact with PP. Not the 720 PP. What benefits do I get from upgrading? Tighter spread? More power? More accurate? Easier to tune? Is it worth getting the m3 when you already own a impact mk2?
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I have a heavily upgraded X with power plenum, a MK2 compact and last week I've bought the M3.

Only reason that I bought the M3 is the fact that I'm a machinist and tuner, and like to experiment.

The M3 has got the tool-less hammer spring adjustment, for me that's gold, and basically the one and only reason I bought it.

I was fed up with fiddling around with the 1.5mm allen key.

For the rest, my impact X will do everything what my MK2 and M3 can do.

72cc plenum mostly plays out it's advantages with the bigger calibers and lower reg. pressures, so the step from non power plenum to power plenum is way bigger than going from the "regular" power plenum to PP720. (I am for 90% a 22 cal shooter)

Trigger? I fitted my X and MK2 triggers with lighter springs, and they feel way better than the M3 trigger in stock form.

Dual regulators? I have great results with only one regulator, never really felt the need for having 2 regs.

Safety? Hate it that they have reversed it. Like the old ones better. Now I have 1 impact with a reversed safety.....

Overall, the M3 has got the best finish, and most solid feel of my 3 impacts, that's a fact.

If you already have an MK2, it is up to you to decide if these improvements are worth it to upgrade.

But don't let it get into your mind that you really need one if you already have a nice MK2 ;)



Cheers, Gijs
 
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M3 this m3 that. That is all I see on here now. Also Matt, Ernest, South Africa Boys, Utah airgun, all they talk about now is how good their m3 is. Whatever happen to all their mk2? o_O they toss in the trash? Lol. Back to topic. All this m3 is making me think. Should I upgrade to the m3 or nah? I own a mk2 impact with PP. Not the 720 PP. What benefits do I get from upgrading? Tighter spread? More power? More accurate? Easier to tune? Is it worth getting the m3 when you already own a impact mk2?
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I have a heavily upgraded X with power plenum, a MK2 compact and last week I've bought the M3.

Only reason that I bought the M3 is the fact that I'm a machinist and tuner, and like to experiment.

The M3 has got the tool-less hammer spring adjustment, for me that's gold, and basically the one and only reason I bought it.

I was fed up with fiddling around with the 1.5mm allen key.

For the rest, my impact X will do everything what my MK2 and M3 can do.

72cc plenum mostly plays out it's advantages with the bigger calibers and lower reg. pressures, so the step from non power plenum to power plenum is way bigger than going from the "regular" power plenum to PP720. (I am for 90% a 22 cal shooter)

Trigger? I fitted my X and MK2 triggers with lighter springs, and they feel way better than the M3 trigger in stock form.

Dual regulators? I have great results with only one regulator, never really felt the need for having 2 regs.

Safety? Hate it that they have reversed it. Like the old ones better. Now I have 1 impact with a reversed safety.....

Overall, the M3 has got the best finish, and most solid feel of my 3 impacts, that's a fact.

If you already have an MK2, it is up to you to decide if these improvements are worth it to upgrade.

But don't let it get into your mind that you really need one if you already have a nice MK2 ;)



Cheers, Gijs
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NIce level headed presentation of a point of view. I certainly agree on the "need" thing. Not really sure who "needs" an air gun, but that's JMO.
 
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