Thoughts on FX?

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You throw enough of one product into the mix and good results are bound to happen. A great product sells itself in most cases, some have to be more aggressive with marketing than others. FX has done a fantastic job on marketing, some have had a great experience and others haven't. Plenty of other brands on the market with limited problems to deal with. Some psychologically just need to be able to tinker. 

 

[intenseaty22]

And with your experience with that particular caliber, aren't you clumping all fx into a nifty little box?

Again, i feel your pain and no slam or disrespect intended. 

No disrespect taken. I don’t feel I am putting them in a little box with my statement though. I have repeatedly stated that there are many happy campers out there & they seem to win competitions as well as have a strong fan base, a company earns that, but not based on my experience & not my money. I’m exclusively sharing my experience. But surely you can understand how I don’t trust the brand & I will most certainly not take that chance again. Again, a company with that much money & clout ought to make it right, turn that frown up side down.

*That and I don’t go around downplaying people’s experiences with theirs. I’m actually genuinely happy for folk that have one & love it. Good for them. But fact seems to be that they tested and released a sub par product. It should be recalled. 

 

[Gerry52]

NOT if you stay with the Royale, Boss, Wildcat or Bobcat series. Mine (Royale 500 & Boss) have been absolutely trouble free for years but I wouldn't touch an Impact with a ten foot pole. WAY too many variables to get out of whack & too difficult to get back into whack. Mine have been fine, precision and reliable tools for pesting & I'll be damned if I want to spend 10 hours tinkering for every hour of shooting. So, in answer to the OP question, it depends SPECIFICALLY on which FX product we're talking about. Don't think it's fair to make a blanket judgment on JUST the troublesome models & reported problems. 

 

[Guest]

FX is like Apple. Says it all! ( Alot of ppl want one but those who know whats inside dont) they also have Kim Kardashian like marketing ppl! Match made in heaven and onlyway to beat that is to mate them with scopecam adapter!  

 

[T3PRanch]

My biggest Issue with FX is their refusal to move all products to foster fill fittings like the Impact uses. Fill probes are a big issue when owning multiple guns from multiple manufacturers. They require too much cataloging and control to prevent the dreaded "I brought the wrong fill probe or I lost the fill probe syndrome".

They could at the very least issue a foster fill probe with all guns to the appropriate markets (USA) so other fittings do not have to be sourced by the gun buyer.

 

[Greenarrow]

I didn't read all the responses to the original question but I'll just share my limited experience and opinion.



I have owned 4 FX pcp rifles. I currently own 3. My first FX was a used Royale 400 in 22. I ended up selling it and wanted another pcp. I had come to appreciate the 3 level power wheel, side cocking lever and the accuracy. I ended up purchasing a Streamline in 22 because it had those features that I liked. It is also a simple platform and easy to work on should I need to.

Time went by and I decided to try a bullpup. I ran across a deal on a new Wildcat MKI in 177. I suspected regulator creep and did a cleanup/rebuild on the reg. Ended up going for peace of mind and replaced it with a HUMA. Thought I had the same issue with the new HUMA but after some fiddling realized that I had the HST too low and ended up finding a harmony between the HST and reg pressure that gives me great power (if desired) and accuracy in the 177. Other than the reg and the tune, the rifle is outstanding and is my favorite so far.

A buddy of mine gave me an inside tip and I ended up buying a new Royale 400 in 22 again. I figured I was missing something with selling the first and replacing it with the Streamline. Only differences are the looks/ergos and the higher air capacity of the bottle on the 400. Really they are the same gun as far as function so I have two that fill the same spot.

That's my experience with FX guns. 

My opinion is that FX guns are good guns. If you want to pull them out of the box and shoot I think most will be well pleased with them. If you are the type of person that has to turn knobs and screws and take things apart, go for more power or make a particular type of ammo work, there is going to be some headaches and heartaches to work through. Doesn't matter if it's FX or any other maker for that matter. Something will get wonky and will have to be figured out.

The platforms I have bought and used are pretty much point and shoot. They suit what I want or need right from box. I feel the new guns like the Dreamline, Crown and the Impacts lend themselves to be easily adjustable and changeable. Just because its easy to turn the dials doesn't mean it's easy to get the right performance out of it. There IS some science and art to tuning a gun to shoot well. I think there is also some luck involved with it too, at least it is for my case .

I also think that with more moving parts there is going to be a greater chance for something to fail. It would be frustrating to spend $1000-$2000 on a luxury item that encourages users to twist and turn knobs and when something fails or gets too far out of adjustment to work well we blame the company that made it for poor quality control or design. I'm NOT saying FX guns are perfect in all respects, they are not. From what I read online (I don't know for a fact) FX appears to sell quite a few more guns than other makers in that high end market. If that is true I would also think that we would hear more about the headaches and failures since their are more guns out there being tweaked and shot. Just go back a few pages and we can see titles to posts that express that their are also issues going on with other makers guns.



WHEW! If you made it this far I'll sum up my random thoughts with this, the new hyper adjustable FX guns seem more prone to issues than their other more solid models that don't get the attention anymore. I think there are more FX owners out there than other brands so there are more guns out there that could potentially have issues. Twist and turn multiple knobs and dials trying to chase that unicorn things are going to get sideways every once in awhile and parts will fail.

Forums are the places that we go when we are experiencing technical difficulties to get answers so, we see a lot of the issues people are experiencing with their guns.



I'm finished rambling now. Ha ha!

 

[Long_Gun_Dallas]

No, people just complain. In general. But especially when they spend a lot on something they can't quite get to work right.

I make a living making things work right. The fx I have was built and designed to be tuner friendly. If you don't want to tune your gun, get a daystate huntsman. If you do, then an fx will likely outshine any other model/platform.

The Crown I have is very well engineered. I've had 2 problems with it over the course of thousands and thousands of rounds fired thru it. The bottle adapter backed out. Loc tite fixed that. And I got some spring guide shavings in the hammer tube. A bit of polishing fixed that. 



Their customer service is great. US division, anyhow. They do get swamped with emails, but do respond as promptly (2-3 days for me) and as courteously as they can. They have always been helpful and upfront with me. 

 

[bucketboy]

Airgun Extreme Benchrest matches are dominated by FX rifles.

That’s because the competition is geared towards speed shooting, you don’t see other airgun shooting disciplines where FX dominate. Not many professional pest controllers us them either, partly because they look too nice, are on the expensive side but also because they are not durable enough to withstand day to day abuse.



Bb 

 

[Leon83]

Those who own FX airguns based on Royale/Boss breach block are in 99% very pleased how they perform. It is one of the best breach blocks on the market - simple and reliable. I wish fx return to design things simpler. Until then I will stick to my Matador R5M. 

 

[Guest]

I have 3 Fx's and would not trade them for anything except another FX.sure every air rifle will have a problem sooner or later they all use O-rings which do not last forever with time and patience it can be repaired.

Customer service i posted on her that my dream tac compact had a leak from the fill fitting FX contacted me on my post and gave me there email for problems which i sent them a picture of what was going on the emailed me asking for a copy of my receipt and mailing address i sent it to them then i got an email that they accepted my receipt and would notify me of when the parts were going to ship and they were getting the parts to the shipping dept so that they could send them to me free of charge ( warranty ) repair. What more can i ask for.

 

[Bob_O]

Is FX as good as you hear?

Yes they are.

Mine is everything some of you say it can't be. It's a nicely crafted tool that has gotten any job done. It can shoot starlings in a barn at 15 yds or pigeons off a silo at 300yds. It can also shoot half-MOA groups at 100 and 200yds.

It gets rode hard year 'round and put away wet.....literally. It is covered in hay and dirt dust with clean spots from rain. The steel screw heads are even rusted. Despite that, the rifle has been nearly trouble free for over 5,000 shots.

Its topics like this one that don't accomplish much in the end. Guys go at each other, some even make it personal, which is sad.

Buy what you want. There are tons of guys who will help you regardless of what you choose.

 

[Greenarrow]

These are my three. Very pleased so far. I would like to try other makers guns but I have too much $$$ wrapped up with these three.

My current wishlist in no particular order...

Taipan Veteran standard

Edgun RM5 

Daystate Wolverine 

FWB 800W 

Anschutz Black

 

[Guest]

I would recomend Gamo Coyote. Its excelent rifle mine shoots Sub quater moa groups out to 500yds in 100mph winds and I can shoot pigeons at point blank range or 1000yds it all comes down to do I want to. But hey one shot group is guaranteed sub moa as far as pellet,bullet,slug or pine cone flies!

 

[bigHUN]

"No, it cannot be an airgun - it is too simple"

From my competition archery days let me tell you my story and how I see things.

New guys coming into club, watching me and couple others plunging X's,

next day they went to a store and dress up with latest and greatest compound bow setups costing 3-4-5 thousand bucks.

Here they coming back next day with a new shiny toy, and start shooting...

then start working with allenkey's,

then next week and next couple weeks more wannabe a mechanic then shooting a damn target.

"It is not a bow but an INDIAN"

I was not born as a natural talent, I was shooting my FITA and Field targets every day for 2-3 hours, over thousand arrows per week, every week after week, summer or winter, for years. This much work can win at a tournament and nothing else. Hunting or pesting I am considering low level hobby vs a score card.

Some people have plenty of money and in desperation they buying toys, they buy a latest and greatest, but not putting an effort, no training, no coaching, no hard work and sweating, no mental training, they just think they some natural talent and the bow/arrow will give them results?

Well, that not gonna happen. Not in archery, not with airguns, not with cars, not with cooking.,.. And especially NOT if you start turning knobs and screws with a tool and you don't understand the outcome.

Here it goes that bow, that airgun, that pretty expensive toy ...to classifieds, and of course the negative feedback, a bashing, the entire negative attitude in one place.

I would just ask anybody new to a sport and have a new airgun setup no matter FX, who expects to hit a MOA @ 25 or 50 or 100...where did you learned to aim, did anybody helped you out, show you how to do it, a coach a trainer, or you just picked up yourself on youtube?

 

[cmatera]

No.

 

[bigHUN]

#2

Do not underestimate a target panic!

 

[Glem.Chally]

Ask these here rats.



https://youtu.be/6SMX9IqBoYU

Or this fella who dropped like he got hit by lightning.

https://youtu.be/MfYPFPNPk2Y

 

[Guest]

Airgun Extreme Benchrest matches are dominated by FX rifles.

That’s because the competition is geared towards speed shooting, you don’t see other airgun shooting disciplines where FX dominate. Not many professional pest controllers us them either, partly because they look too nice, are on the expensive side but also because they are not durable enough to withstand day to day abuse.



Bb

^This is totally true. Was talking to my superintendent friend who airgun pests. He actually uses a Benjamin Marauder and said FX won’t last.

 

[Glem.Chally]

Oh yeah totally true, it's not like the main events are 75 and 100y benchrest. The speed shooting event is the highlight.

 

[Guest]

Is FX as good as you hear?

Yes they are.

Mine is everything some of you say it can't be. It's a nicely crafted tool that has gotten any job done. It can shoot starlings in a barn at 15 yds or pigeons off a silo at 300yds. It can also shoot half-MOA groups at 100 and 200yds.

It gets rode hard year 'round and put away wet.....literally. It is covered in hay and dirt dust with clean spots from rain. The steel screw heads are even rusted. Despite that, the rifle has been nearly trouble free for over 5,000 shots.

Its topics like this one that don't accomplish much in the end. Guys go at each other, some even make it personal, which is sad.

Buy what you want. There are tons of guys who will help you regardless of what you choose.

yeah no reason to get personal. Everyone gets what they want. There is a demand for FX so much that people can’t get their liners, so less Lt’s shooting them the better for the FX fans. The company can’t be doing fantastic all the time for no reason, too.