The scope mounters best friend

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I hacked my way thru leveling scopes with a lesser system over the years. This kit from Wheeler makes it soooo much easier.
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"jps2486"Too expensive and unnecessary. Use Burris Signature rings. They have spherical calibrated plastic inserts that are self centering. Plus you can alter the scope angle up to 40 MOA. Inserts don't mar the scope tube either.
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You can use all the Burris rings you want......... Still doesn't level a scope! Too expensive $46? Thanks for telling us we are throwing away our money!
 
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Sometimes in any hobby, I wonder if we take perfection a bit too far. And, yes, I've done it. In woodworking, sharpening a chisel or plane blade takes on almost mythical proportions! If we can't shave with the blade, it isn't sharp enough! In fact, if you can't just lean it against a hair on your arm and the hair fall over, it isn't sharp enough! (I use the "Scary Sharp" method, you can look it up)

​We tend to spend so much time sharpening, we forget about wood working. Sharpening becomes an end in itself.

​I think the key is identifying how perfect you need the scope mounting. If hunting and have a couple inches kill zone, the perfection methods probably aren't needed. If, however, you are doing the Extreme Benchrest, you bet, I'd spring for a leveling kit like this. Small price to pay for that much more accuracy.

That's my opinion, what do you all think?

 
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This a very neat looking kit. I would suggest not putting the level on top of the elevation turret and on the flat rail instead anywhere flat except on top of the scope turret. See video 7:57 time for explanation.
So, question is, is the scope reticle going to be perfect while using this kit without ever having to look through the scope during the process with the level on the top turret? I watched the Cabela's video on it and it appears as if he doesn't even look through the scope before he tightens down the scope rings. What if the scope turret is not perfectly flat or level in relation to the reticle even after the barrel level is properly installed? Speaking specifically scope here not the leveler. I had noticed in the past some cheaper BSA scopes have a bit of a wobble when rotating the top turret thus coming to this conclusion.
I think the plumb line method is the only reliable way to do it. Video link below suggest everyone take a look.
I have to do it this way because I shoot out to 300 yards with airguns.
AJ.
 
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"Saltlake58"Sometimes in any hobby, I wonder if we take perfection a bit too far. And, yes, I've done it. In woodworking, sharpening a chisel or plane blade takes on almost mythical proportions! If we can't shave with the blade, it isn't sharp enough! In fact, if you can't just lean it against a hair on your arm and the hair fall over, it isn't sharp enough! (I use the "Scary Sharp" method, you can look it up)

​We tend to spend so much time sharpening, we forget about wood working. Sharpening becomes an end in itself.

​I think the key is identifying how perfect you need the scope mounting. If hunting and have a couple inches kill zone, the perfection methods probably aren't needed. If, however, you are doing the Extreme Benchrest, you bet, I'd spring for a leveling kit like this. Small price to pay for that much more accuracy.

That's my opinion, what do you all think?

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Yep, have to admit I've spent hours working on my lathe tools.
So I can't point fingers, same idea I guess, you spend 300 400 dollars on one bowl gouge your not going to walk over to a bench grinder and start throwing sparks. 
Would say if you spend 500 for some good glass and just plop it on a gun without proper care in mounting ur kind of spinning ur wheels 
 
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The string hanging with a weight on the end of the string at a few yards away is my best friend. I never loose one of the parts as long as I have a ball of string and a few nuts to tie on the end. If you have several scopes you interchange buy some scope levels and mount the level on the scope. That way your scope can be leveled on any gun without having to breakout a bunch of tools and hanging strings. All you need is a level for your gun then rotate the scope until the level on your scope is level with the level on your gun. My biggest problem is a good way to shim the scope for windage once you center the cross hairs on your scope. The rail on my Impact was off a lot more than I would have liked. I had to loosen the bolts and move the front of the rail as far as it would go to the right and the back of the rail to the left to get the rail some what aligned to the barrel.
same as Aj above.
 
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The string and plumb bob method works well but....... The gun has to sit level before you begin. I can't see any other way to be assured the gun is level without using a "level" on the scope rail. Since I'm anal about mounting my scope, I do use the bars with points to ensure my windage is aligned when tightening down the rail clamps. You would be surprised how crooked they can get when they are tightened. When a scope is not parallel with the barrel, it can drive a man insane.
 
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I always use a digital protractor on the Picatinny rail first then atop my scope turret. Usually I use 2 digital protractors at once but with my Taipan I didn't use a second on the Picatinny rail but on the top of the cocking lever cover because I had no room left.. I make sure both read level as I torque the rings down as things will shift. This is still not complete without the plumb line tracking test or best yet, a box shooting test. The two levels get you off to a good start though.
 
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Don't get me wrong these things seem nice but however just because your gun and scope may be level doesn't mean anything about eliminating can't. I've done the level the gun and scope on all my guns and just because you think the gun is level it doesn't mean that the scope reticle to bore center is centered which is a huge thing when it comes to longer shooting with these Airguns. I had to redo all of mine and now I don't have can't issues at longer range shooting.

http://www.airgunnation.com/topic/best-way-to-level-a-scope/
 
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