The Remarkable Anschutz 220

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What is an Anschutz 280? Do you mean Anschutz 380?
I just don't understand why an Anschutz 380 can be any different (accurate) than a FWB 300S, except that the Annie is less likely to poke your eye out!
I also don't understand how the suppressed 300S or the 380 can be as accurate as a no-recoil-at-all Diana 75? Someone is now going to say they are not suppressed, I guess?
FWIW, that classified 300S is really a SU, customized stock I think, and sights not really too hard to find...looks nice.
 
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Yes, that's my typically bad typing skills. It is a 380. Since I have both, I think the major difference is that the 380 doesn't really care if I hang a heavier scope on it. I try to keep the 300s scope weight down so that it doesnt affect the movement of the action and barrel much. The mounting dovetail for the 380 is on a non moving housing that the barrel slides inside of.
 
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At the end of the day, unless you are a fit young person and olympic level marksman all these guns are about the same, accuracy wise? Even the antique Anschutz 220 mentioned by the OP does very well for itself, in my experience! I'm not even convinced that recoil suppression makes much difference at the baseline skill levels, example FWB 110 and 150.
 
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If I had to rate my springers based on accuracy, I would say that a well maintained 300s, if properly sealed and with the right pellets, is my most accurate gun. From a bench or my F-class bipod, it's really accurate. I regularly beat some of the PCP guys.
The 380 is close, and the Diana 54 is 3rd. If you need to throw heavier pellets or need a bit more range, then the Diana 54 starts to gain ground. The later Air King 54 models were very accurate for a magnum gun.
If you move to an SSP format then the Walther LGR was simply awesome for it's time. The world shooting orgs essentially had to redo their targets because they were too accurate for the existing ones. The Super Air 2002 is in that same mold, and is more accurate than my 300s by just a bit.
The honest truth is that any of these guns will outshoot almost all shooters abilites in positional shooting, and the accuracy difference is only apparent on a solid steady rest in no wind conditions.
I am also a bit of a trigger snob, and both 300s and the 380 have great light triggers. The 380 trigger is set up just like my Annie 54 22LR match gun.
As for fit and young, I am not young, but fairly fit, except for my eyes, which ain't great.
As far as Olympians go, long ago I did shoot on a team in college alongside the very first American female Olympic gold medalist shooter.
 
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Interesting.
I used to think my FWB300 non S was the most accurate, until I got a Diana 75.
I'm only familiar with 10M springers, and even the real antiques like the Walther LG55, HW55, Diana 65 do remarkably well...even a stone age fossil, a Falke 90 does OK for itself!
Do you think individual guns of a particular model may vary depending on age, maintenance, how well cared for?
Do Olympic level competitors get to select the best example from several guns?
 
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In the case of my Olympian teammate, she was most concerned about the gun being exactly fit to her frame and dimensions so that it "felt" just right. she had an exact balance point, and her gun had lots of indexing marks scribed on it. We were also shipped the best Eley match ammo available at the time for the team to use.
FWIW, I think the original 300 had a one piece spring and the 300s version had the 2 piece "opposite wound" spring set. That was supposed to improve repeatability by reducing the rotational torque of the spring expanding.
I'm not actually sure what her match airgun was. I'm sure at the training center they pretty much got their pick of whatever from the gun reps.
Granted, ultimately, she was given a gold-plated Annie match 54 in recognition of her small-bore gold medal achievement, but she never fired that one until a few years ago as the opening shot at camp Perry. She was also the Air Force academy shooting coach/instructor for like 25+ years.
I think the most accurate airgun that I ever shot, from a front rest and rear bag, on a bench was a Walther LGR. It was like a perfectly centered hole would just magically appear when you pointed it at the X. My 2002 SuperAir is close to that.
The magic at the highest level of competition was thought to come from having the lowest possible "lock time". That way any movement in the gun as the shot was released was less likely to be transmitted to the pellet before it would exit. The SSP guns was an improvement and the PCP guns, one step better yet.
I think that even pretty old guns with good springs, good seals, a top-notch trigger, and just normal maintenance will continue to be more accurate than most shooters can operate them.
It is also really important to find the exact pellet each gun likes. Two 7.33 grains pellets from 2 different makers may perform very differently. A .01mm head difference also may make a difference in certain guns.
I also love my 1976 Annie Match 54 22lr with the 1407-u9 trigger.
 
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