The most accurate high power fixed barrel springer/gas ram is....?
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I've considered this one. And may get it at some point.
https://hatsanairgunsusa.com/product/torpedo-155-vortex/
https://hatsanairgunsusa.com/product/torpedo-155-vortex/
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Diana 460 (470) platform is good in that category. I have a 460 that is powerful and plenty accurate for any small game use.
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My Diana 48 is breaking in quite nicely. I’m getting 1 ragged hole at 25 yrds in my back yard.
I concur with the m48. I have one in .177 that I've been shooting since 1992 and if I do my part it will hit what I aim at. It only just last March got it's first disassembly cleaning and vortec kit installed. Never been apart before that that I know of as it was used when I bought it. I do wish I would've bought one in .22 but still satisfied.
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An AGN member and personal friend killed four squirrels yesterday with his HW97K Sub 12lb rifle. I have a TX200 in .177 (16 lbs custom tuned) and an HW97K in .22 (14.5 lbs) - both tack drivers - wouldn't hesitate to hunt with either of them. I am not sure you need magnum power.
I do have a Diana 56 target hunter in .22 on order. It has now been on backorder from PA for more than 6 weeks. Having previously owned two 54 Air Kings, I am anxious to see how it performs. If I wanted a lot of power in a springer, I would consider a 54 Air King...
I do have a Diana 56 target hunter in .22 on order. It has now been on backorder from PA for more than 6 weeks. Having previously owned two 54 Air Kings, I am anxious to see how it performs. If I wanted a lot of power in a springer, I would consider a 54 Air King...
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Personally,it's a toss-up between my .22 Diana 54 (24 fpe) and .20 Beeman RX2 (21 fpe).
Mike
Mike
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All you fellows bragging about those high end german and english underlevers, I'm curious to know if they are that accurate for hunting right out of the box or are they all tuned to get to that level of braggery??
Thanks
Ray
P.S. didn't mean to hijack this thread. Just thought that question would be interesting to hear the answer.
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High power and accurate in a springer are usually at odds with each other. The only exception I have found is the RWS/Diana 54 or 56. As you move to more powerful springers the hold sensitivity grows exponentially. The 54 and 56 have an action that rides on a sled which virtually eliminates this tendency. Be aware though that you MUST invest in the most secure mounts and toughest scopes or use a mount like the RWS Bullseye mount or you will be making frequent replacements.
Powerful---Check
Accurate---Check
Scope killer---Check
Mine in .22 is a match for most any PCP out to 50 yards, love it.
Powerful---Check
Accurate---Check
Scope killer---Check
Mine in .22 is a match for most any PCP out to 50 yards, love it.
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HW97, TX200, or Pro Sport. All about the same accuracy, it just depends on your budget. The HW97 ordered from Krale is tough to beat for the value.
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Thanks everyone for your recommendations. It appears that I have more options to consider than originally thought. I knew when I asked the question, that there were many powerful rifles out there. Accuracy was the most important factor. Recently I shot a gamo magnum. Indeed it was very powerful launching 22 cal. jSB 18.13 grain pellets at 25 fpe. But for me, it wasn’t very accurate. Thanks again.
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Competitors are putting their money on the TX200, Walther LGU/LGV, and HW97. I did see at least one Diana 54 in the rankings as well. The Walthers appear to be surpassing the HW97 in popularity among top competitors. Folks on this forum seem to have good luck with them as well.
https://wftc2019.com/wftc2019_piston_results/
https://wftc2019.com/wftc2019_piston_results/
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I would easily take the soft shot impulse of the 54 over the regular springers any day vs "hopefully" getting the tiniest bit more accuracy that those other springers "might" provide!
Seen my friend Mark and read of Scott winning FT matches many times in springer class with their 54's but theirs were highly tuned.
I had a Crow Mag in 20 cal and after the novelty wore off I sold it. It was hard to cock and had a pretty violent shot impulse, only .8" groups at 25y as well.
This is coming from a guy raised with nice springers from youth and once I got into PCP's that kinda sealed the coffin for my remaining springers which most of got sold.
Seen my friend Mark and read of Scott winning FT matches many times in springer class with their 54's but theirs were highly tuned.
I had a Crow Mag in 20 cal and after the novelty wore off I sold it. It was hard to cock and had a pretty violent shot impulse, only .8" groups at 25y as well.
This is coming from a guy raised with nice springers from youth and once I got into PCP's that kinda sealed the coffin for my remaining springers which most of got sold.
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I've had a few LGU's, kind of addicted. They all shot very accurately out of the box, and had a very smooth firing cycle. At about 1000 rounds they really setlle in though. Are they "Hi powered" enough for the OP? Not sure, but 13-15 ft lbs and super accurate 177 pellet placement will solve a lot of problems. My ProSport shoots a bit harder than my LGU by the way, not a bad choice but both guns are costly.
Hasta,
John
Hasta,
John
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Diana offers a number of good quality,high power, accurate springers.
I've often wondered what really constitutes high power. I don't have enough experience to say. However, I suspect that a .22 cal springer pushing a 14 gr pellet about 700 to 800 fps will offer the best of accuracy and power.
I've often wondered what really constitutes high power. I don't have enough experience to say. However, I suspect that a .22 cal springer pushing a 14 gr pellet about 700 to 800 fps will offer the best of accuracy and power.
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I have commented on this before, but I have had way more successful squirrel kill shots with my LGV .177 than my LGV .22. They are both very accurate, but for some reason (penetration, shot placement?) the .177 kills them dead every time.
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Interesting. I've never compared the two calibers since I only hunted with .177 as a young guy. Do you think it is energy effect or possibly trajectory advantage meaning cleaner hits? I suppose on a small quick animal like a squirrel that time of flight might also be a factor.
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