The Altaros booster and Nitrogen

The last couple of days i recieved multiple PB’s regarding the Altaros booster and Nitrogen.



First understand that the booster is two different systems in one unit.

1) The central piston only does work and wastes all used air. It is controlled by a central switch unit that is fed 12V to operate. It can be coupled to a cars 12V system no problem and it draws next to nothing (it's only a switch).

2) The input side feeds the right piston (low pressure side) that boosts the supplied shop compressor air by @8 times. Ie. if you supply it with 10bar~145psi it will boost to @ 80bar~1150psi. This is fed directly through the white hose to the left piston (high pressure side) and boosted another @8 times (i know Altaros has tested the output past 490bar~7000psi!).



Now hooking up Nitrogen to the booster can be done in two ways:

1) Low pressure Nitrogen supplied by a normal shop regulator (mine goes from 0-40bar~0-600psi) set at max. 10bar~145psi and fed through the desiccant filter into the LP side. That will then feed the HP side and the booster acts as normal. All you have to do is uncouple the hose going from the T-splitter to the desiccant filter and supply Nitrogen there. The booster will function as normal supplied with shop compressor air (and power).

2) A supply of Nitrogen regulated to @80bar~1150psi fed directly into the HP side. This needs a little set of hoses and couplings supplied by Altaros for @ $40. Please see attached video for proper replumbing:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPdImL-cEUY



It is imperative to ”rewire” the booster as the HP side looses cooling if not done correctly and a Chernobyl melt down might occur.

I see the first solution as the optimum one as it can utilise all the Nitrogen in the supply bottle and waste but the last 50psi.



If someone wants to go totally off grid then the Altaros can be driven 100% from a 10bar~145psi regulated bottle of either air or Nitrogen (or both at the same time). It can be done so the (cheap) air drives the central/work piston and is wasted while Nitrogen is fed to the boosting system.

Another possibillity is two bottles of air where one has (way) more pressure than the other and then the HP bottle can supply the boosting side while the LP bottle supplies the central/work piston via a regulator set at 10bar~145psi max.

The HP bottle supply can be anything from 30bar~450psi to 100bar~1450psi (i know this is higher than Altaros advises and they will probably spank me for this but 100bar~1450psi works just fine for me, this thing is built like a tank!) without any regulator. If higher then a regulator is nedded to supply a max. of 80 bar~1150psi.



If this is totally bass ackwards to you then please ask! We’re all here to learn and there are no dumb questions only dumb answers!



Please bear in mind that i am in no way affiliated with Altaros and have recieved no sponsor parts or money unfortunately ;-)

I write this as i find this product of such fine quality and workmanship for the supplied price, that in my opinion it’s the best product of it’s kind on the market.



I currently run my Altaros from a 1hp 1½cfm-tops compressor (feeding both inputs) and it is slow like molasses in winter but it just chugs on and on. I have checked and i can actually do anything from wife supplied chores to beer chugging and it will still work until the auto shut off sets in.

So i see no problem in using such a small compressor while boosting noble gasses!

Booster with plumbing as normal fed from a shop compressor

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Booster split so shop compressor drives it and Nitrogen is fed to the bottom hose for boosting

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Editied: Holy crap the copied font got big! Hope it's better now.
 
No mate if you have an umpteen cfm compressor it´ll do it in no time flat! The only limiting factor is air supplied to the central piston and it's action. It's no slam dunk, so takes a little time. But 6 (way slow) hours can be done in 45 min. no problem.

But for mere mortals a small shop compressor is enough to do the job only (way) slower.

And yes as i described it will boost Nitrogen or other supplied gas from (min) 50psi to 4500psi no problem, at the same time it will delete your source bottle to @50psi before quitting.



If you have the same setup as the Ayrtekk then fill times will be the same.

If you use a shop compressor in leu of the compressed air for the booster piston then yes, times will wary.

But then again trips to the dive/weld shop will deminish :)
 
The instructions advise that it is normal for the drive circuit to blow a little water. As is described, the drive air is also used as the cooling system and is completely separate from the compressible input and doesn't require a desiccant filter. IMO, it is still a good idea to feed the unit with as dry as possible input supply. There is a trap at the input, but it does a lousy lob. I'm surprised that you are running yours with such a small drive pump. I'm using a 2 1/2 HP 10-gallon 180 cubic litre per minute compressor and I consider that to be the bare minimum for practical use. I have already burnt out a similar unit with not many fill runs on a 6.8 L bottle. I would suggest that your puny little 1 HP compressor is destined for a very short life. I only use my booster as a back up these days as I find that the YH is more practical for my requirements.
 
So I've got a decently powerful shop compressor, is the Altaros good enough for my only compressor, assuming an SCBA tank and direct airgun filling?

Altaros lists the plastic toolbox version for $524 before shipping, wonder what it costs delivered to the US. I tried to add it to the cart but the website doesn't allow it.

I'm asking because owners of the shoebox compressor seem to love them even if they are a bit slow, and they seem to be very reliable. The Altaros looks very similar.
 
I have an older unit that came in the plastic toolbox. I find if I try to run it too fast from my 80 gallon shop compressor it can swamp the drive pistons with water. I have added a LARGE water separator to my compressor to try to eliminate this issue. 

Nothing to "dive" in anywhere near here but sand! lol

A large water separator wont do it alone, hot air will still carry water right through, you have to cool the air down before it reach the separator to make it condense, an air cooling unit and or a big buffer tank will help