Texan .457 / .510

[_CTAIRGUNNER_]

Guys who shoot these rifles and hunt with them, what texan is more accurate with OFF THE SHELF AMMO. (MR HP, PRO SLUGS, KC SLUGS. WHOEVER)

Think coyote hunting, would prefer the carbine version , shots at 125 yards or less.

I have the opportunity to gain a coyote permission this winter and this is something I want to take on but will pass it on if I can't get setup right.

 

[mercado]

You know I love my airforce .. the only texan I have not purchased is a 357 n 50 .. but if I had this kind of permission.. only a Slayer would do the trick..I liked the feel of the bulldog is a light bullpub..but I don't see the sense in throwing $$$ on a bulldog buid that when I want a change there is no way to get back not even half of the $$$ .. you end with a expensive Benjamin no body else want.. the slayers are light, designed especially for the hunter.

 

[_CTAIRGUNNER_]

You know I love my airforce .. the only texan I have not purchased is a 357 n 50 .. but if I had this kind of permission.. only a Slayer would do the trick..I liked the feel of the bulldog is a light bullpub..but I don't see the sense in throwing $$$ on a bulldog buid that when I want a change there is no way to get back not even half of the $$$ .. you end with a expensive Benjamin no body else want.. the slayers are light, designed especially for the hunter.

I would LOVE a slayer but I never see any .452s available

It's one of my,damn I dream to own one one day

 

[Chickenthief]

The heavier you go the more rainbow trajectory you'll get, but man oh man the cavity when that bullet connects!
In other words: You cant miss fast enough to kill anything but a way big fat wound channel will bleed an animal out fast, even on a half decent shot.
And if you cross bones then that .457/.51 will expand and the enevitable will come faster.

A .457/.51 meplath is often but a wet dream for a .257" or .357" fully expanded.

 

[_CTAIRGUNNER_]

The heavier you go the more rainbow trajectory you'll get, but man oh man the cavity when that bullet connects!
In other words: You cant miss fast enough to kill anything but a way big fat wound channel will bleed an animal out fast, even on a half decent shot.
And if you cross bones then that .457/.51 will expand and the enevitable will come faster.

Then again .457/.51 meplath is often but a wet dream for a .257" or .357" fully expanded.

This was my reasoning behind wanting to go with such a large caliber, I am currently doing research and I would like to go with the round that will drop the animal the quickest, I know these are rugged creatures. I did think about the .257 Texan as well as a .30 L2 shooting slugs (for that quick follow up) but ruled these out to go with heavy weight, even the Western Bush Pig looks solid.

 

[mtnGhost]

The caliber and projectile depend on the animal obviously. I'm gearing up for my first PCP big game hunt for elk that I was invited to, doing my diligence to ensure that I'm going with an optimal projectile for a full size .45 carbon TX2 Texan that will dispatch it as humanely and effectively as possible.

While I still have a bunch of 500gr from HS - Bob (Mr. Hollowpoint) recommended his 365gr long nose, 385, or 415's. I'm leaning towards the heavier side, but I'm hedging on taking shots no greater than 70y. Double lung shots would be most ideal unless I'm able to get the heart.

For white tail and mule deer with these particular Texans, I would think the 333's would grt the job done.

 

[_CTAIRGUNNER_]

For white tail and mule deer with these particular Texans, I would think the 333's would grt the job done.

I was leaning toward that weight for the coyotes, a 320-350 gr projectile at like you said around 75 yards on the shoulder of a coyote should stop it in its tracks. There is a sheep farm that is owned by an older woman whos husband just passed and her great pyrenes dogs are older and don't have the work in them anymore to handle the coyotes.

 

[mtnGhost]

I was leaning toward that weight for the coyotes, a 320-350 gr projectile at like you said around 75 yards on the shoulder of a coyote should stop it in its tracks. There is a sheep farm that is owned by an older woman whos husband just passed and her great pyrenes dogs are older and don't have the work in them anymore to handle the coyotes.

I can't stand those little bastards. My Maverick with 62gr Varmint Knockers has been more than enough for dropping coyotes. The meplat is small, but they expand perfectly and transfer a lot of energy in the vital areas and have made some pretty gnarly holes in them.

I'm also confident that 50.15gr would do the job. They hit tremendously hard at steel (more so than 65.5gr NSAs). Now a friend in CT has dropped them in their tracks with 36gr NOE cast slugs with his power tuned R5M, but I would personally opt for no less than a .30 using a PCP unless they were <35y broadside.

 

[_CTAIRGUNNER_]

I can't stand those little bastards. My Maverick with 62gr Varmint Knockers has been more than enough for dropping coyotes. The meplat is small, but they expand perfectly and transfer a lot of energy in the vital areas and have made some pretty gnarly holes in them.

I'm also confident that 50.15gr would do the job. They hit tremendously hard at steel (more so than 65.5gr NSAs). Now a friend in CT has dropped them in their tracks with 36gr NOE cast slugs with his power tuned R5M, but I would personally opt for no less than a .30 using a PCP unless they were <35y broadside.

My powder burning buddy who just got into air (with an akela at that) was giving me tons of flack for wanting to use .30 on a coyote (was thinking HM1000x or Evol), saying inhumane, etc etc, I did not think so , not one bit, all about that shot placement. I was just going the overkill route and the price on texans is appealing..... but my only issue with the texan even the carbine would be length as I'd want an emperor on the end.

 

[mtnGhost]

My powder burning buddy who just got into air (with an akela at that) was giving me tons of flack for wanting to use .30 on a coyote (was thinking HM1000x or Evol), saying inhumane, etc etc, I did not think so , not one bit, all about that shot placement. I was just going the overkill route and the price on texans is appealing..... but my only issue with the texan even the carbine would be length as I'd want an emperor on the end.

I can't really imagine the Emperor making a .457 "backyard" friendly, but Neil Clauge can make an effective shroud style moderator that I'm told isn't too much louder (yet shorter overall).

 

[RM.510bigbore]

I have emperor with 6in extension on my 50 Texan . It is pretty silent. It twice as loud without the extra extension. So a carbine is long with the donny emperor and extension no matter what. Quiet is nice But heavy and long!!!

 

[_CTAIRGUNNER_]

I have emperor with 6in extension on my 50 Texan . It is pretty silent. It twice as loud without the extra extension. So a carbine is long with the donny emperor and extension no matter what. Quiet is nice But heavy and long!!!

I had a texan .308 with an emperor and it helped quite a bit!

 

[trlrman]

Won a bushpig at EBR then Kip Perow was kind enough to give me a Steve Corcoran stock he won! Talk about putting lipstick on a pig !!!! Have the emperor w/extension on the way as well as some nielsons slugs . hope to give my take on it this weekend .

 

[trlrman]

 

[trlrman]

This will be my 1st go at big bore so ya'll get ready to school me please.

 

[Chickenthief]

Oooh, that timber turned out nice

What is max. fill pressure?


As to schooling:

1) You will start to save up for a proper diving compressor as of now.
Anything below $2000 will fail sooner or later but it will fail.
If you have acces to a big shop compressor you can get away way cheaper with an Altaros booster.
It's slow but has next to no wear parts, so it will run for hundreds of hours before you need to change your first O-ring.
Mine passed way more than 300 hours before i upgraded to a compressor, and i have yet to change anything worth more than a dollar.

2) Carbon tanks that has run out of life (15 years) are cheap and are very nice to have when you can fill them yourself.
I will run through a 9 liter 330bar and two 6.8liter 330bar bottles in @ 100 shots (Texan 50).

3) You will start to save up for bullet casting equipment.
Feeding a big bore storebought bullets gets expensive fast.
Start going to yard sales, sooner or later a nice melting pot and a loading press will turn up cheap.

 

[trlrman]

Oooh, that timber turned out nice

What is max. fill pressure?


As to schooling:

1) You will start to save up for a proper diving compressor as of now.
Anything below $2000 will fail sooner or later but it will fail.
If you have acces to a big shop compressor you can get away way cheaper with an Altaros booster.
It's slow but has next to no wear parts, so it will run for hundreds of hours before you need to change your first O-ring.
Mine passed way more than 300 hours before i upgraded to a compressor, and i have yet to change anything worth more than a dollar.

2) Carbon tanks that has run out of life (15 years) are cheap and are very nice to have when you can fill them yourself.
I will run through a 9 liter 330bar and two 6.8liter 330bar bottles in @ 100 shots (Texan 50).

3) You will start to save up for bullet casting equipment.
Feeding a big bore storebought bullets gets expensive fast.
Start going to yard sales, sooner or later a nice melting pot and a loading press will turn up cheap.

I believe 4500 for max fill ? Alkin 31 vert. in shop, couple of carbon tanks allready , pot and 30lbs of lead waiting, molds on the way . sizing die on the way !

 

[Chickenthief]

You da man

You Sir have my:

One last item on your to do list:

Have great fun!

 

[scallen2112]

So far I am liking the NSA 350 grn boattails for repeatable accuracy. I was using a Mr Hollowpoint 300 grain, but had problems with it. Not in accuracy, but in getting a passthrough and a blood trail. A doe and a hog got killed with it but never found, and anouther hog I found three days later. The lead he uses is very soft and the hollow cups are very big. A lot of expansion and dumping of energy, but no blood to follow. I am hoping the NSA, being a little harder and not as deep a cup, will get me the pass-throughs and blood trail needed.

 

[durbs75]

Lots of great ammo makers. I cast my own. Here’s where I’m at.