Tell me a Story (RWS Career 707 or Sam Yang Sumatra)

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Attn: AGN Members who have owned a Sam Yang or RWS Career 707 air rifle

and can share what they like or dislike about it...or any story's or insights you may have about yours. 

I'm trying to make a review video but the one I got won't feed pellets.

...I'm about to single shot load at least 100 rounds today...which takes almost 2 minutes each.

So it would help me make a better video if I could hear some more about these guns. Thanks! -Nate 

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Cool LDC huh? It doesn't do a darn thing...This gun is Super Loud!!
 
Correction, some Careers were stamped RWS because they were importer for them at the end. They were the latest edition. Basically the same rifle but had their RWS stamped on bottom of receiver. You have to adjust the pellet stop on the 707. They mainly were setup to shoot their brand pellet or Crossman dome. A lot of the other makes of pellets will not cycle right due to the head of the pellet goes to deep into the skirt of the next one in the magazine. I could never get a JSB to cycle correctly. There is a lot of info. on these rifles just search for it. The 707 has been my favorite compared to the Sumatra. I still own a 707 MKII .22 Carbine. I have owned several of these, all different. I like the 10 shot mag. over the 6 shot mag. of the Sumatra. The power wheel always moved between shots on the Sumatra which sucked, 707 didn't do that. I have taken several thousand birds with my 707. Adjusting the power around 350fps, you can pest bird hunt inside barns and not hurt the tin. Or adjust it to 800fps and shoot outside. Or if needed adjust to 1200fps or higher to take out a yote. They are very nice pcp's.
 
The Sumatra is a different gun which appears to have similar origins as the Korean Career II 707.

The Sumatra uses a 6 shot revolver style cylinder making it pellet and slug friendly to load compared to the 707s

in line feed magazine and shuttle which is set for the Eun Jin domes from the earlier models then became semi

modified to make it user friendly to adjust the pellet stop for the shuttle mechanism but you have to take the receiver

off to adjust it or drill a hole on the side the of the receiver to adjust it without having to take the gun apart.

Believe it or not Crosman Premier Domed and CPHPs should be very accurate in both the 707 and Sumatra.

If you decide to single load them into that small cutout then cock it and while holding the lever is in the open position point the

barrel down, load your pellet and use a golf tee to nudge it in the barrel then close the cocking lever and you are ready to shoot.

Back the power wheel down some because you will break the sound barrer if you crank it up which will hinder accuracy.

Run it over a chrony and try to stay below 1000fps. Make a note and put a mark on that power wheel to where it is under 

the sound barrier so you know what "click" not to exceed.

The good news is that they both are known to have very accurate pellet friendly barrels for long distance shooting.

CA
 
If not adjusted perfectly, the Career 707s pellet shuttle feed mechaism will shear off part of your pellet acting like a guillotine and harder pellets would be less prone to damage. It may also get jammed if you try to force the cocking lever closed if not set perfectly. My suggestion is to just set it for the pellet it likes the most then just leave it there. I can recommend the Crosman Premier Domes and CPHPs and the Seneca Eun Jin Domes.

Other brands of pellets may be too soft as they can take a beating shuffling through the pellet feed mag and shuttle system IMHO. Shouldn't be any problem if you single load them though...


CA
 
Bought a 707 MkII .22 about 20 years ago. Still got her. Accurate, powerful, adjustable power, and can cycle pellets fast. Took out a limit of doves in under 1 minute. Adjusting the pellet shuttle is not that bad. I used to shoot with 14.3gr Crosman Premiers, then an 18gr Beeman, then a 21 gr pellet. If I wanted to shoot a heavier pellet such as the Korean Dome I single loaded them. It did not take but a couple seconds tp load. I worked on the trigger, and my love for pcp guns evolved. I tried to sell the old 707. Got 8000-12000 different pellets for it. Had a guy offer to buy it. Gave him a price(was going to send the pellets without telling him), he worked his butt off trying to get me give the gun to him for little to nothing. Hell, I was going to pay shipping. Little s#!7 got under my skid. I said screw it, no sale. She sits in the safe. Has not been shot in a couple of years. I think she needs to be shown some love and aimed at a few pigeons. Ever seen what a .22 Crow Magnum does to a sparrow at 1200fps?
 
Bought a 707 MkII .22 about 20 years ago. Still got her. Accurate, powerful, adjustable power, and can cycle pellets fast. Took out a limit of doves in under 1 minute. Adjusting the pellet shuttle is not that bad. I used to shoot with 14.3gr Crosman Premiers, then an 18gr Beeman, then a 21 gr pellet. If I wanted to shoot a heavier pellet such as the Korean Dome I single loaded them. It did not take but a couple seconds tp load. I worked on the trigger, and my love for pcp guns evolved. I tried to sell the old 707. Got 8000-12000 different pellets for it. Had a guy offer to buy it. Gave him a price(was going to send the pellets without telling him), he worked his butt off trying to get me give the gun to him for little to nothing. Hell, I was going to pay shipping. Little s#!7 got under my skid. I said screw it, no sale. She sits in the safe. Has not been shot in a couple of years. I think she needs to be shown some love and aimed at a few pigeons. Ever seen what a .22 Crow Magnum does to a sparrow at 1200fps?

Hotbrass, you have a 20 year old PCP with all of its original seals intact? Thats amazing! Wouldn't mind adding one of these to my collection

a little more lead capacity than my Sumatra.

CA