Thanks, Sam and jps. I follow airgun nation, all forums. I have taken targets from the sites you mentioned and any others that have targets. I guess that what I am trying to do is find the official size. If I print these they are way to big for 10 meter. I reduce them to fit on a 4x6 card as small as the printer will reduce them. I still think this is too big. I need someone that has kids shooting in the school programs to answer. When I figure how to post a picture I will show what I am using and you can tell me if I should go bigger or smaller. Thanks jcs