Target shooting only...which rifle?

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I would tell you to up you Budget to About $600 and get a Benjamin Cayden.
- 3000psi fill, so you could hand pump vs. tank and compressor right away.
- traditional style wood rifle that has an adjustable comb for scopes mounting.
- Great trigger
- very accurate with low cost and readily available Benjamins 14.3gr HP or 19gr pellets.
- 5 yr warranty. They will take care of you.
- smooth side lever action.
- Nice 12 shot magazines (.22) that are low cost.

It was my first PCP and I pumped before I bought a tank. It was and still is a great gun almost 2 years later.
 
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Hey French,
I know you've gotten some mixed messages, but do what most have suggested to get either a HW50s (satisfies shooting criteria) or HW30s (satisfies 1/2 shooting criteria) from Krale. Both guns exceed your budget, but these are excellent rifles at bargain basement prices.

If you decide to go another direction in the future, they can be sold for almost what you paid Klale. Also, you'll be saving on ammo which will help you break even on initial outlay.

Sounds like from your other comments, the budget isn't as tight as U first suggested.
 
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I have a TX 200 .177 and a HW 97 .22. The HW 97 shot cycle was very rough so I installed a Vortec tune kit which calmed it down quite a bit. I consider it more of a hunting rifle. The TX 200 was also a little bouncy so I put a tune kit in it now it is very smooth and I consider it more of a target gun. I just shoot 25m IMO either one are pretty iffy at 50yds when shooting the BR target.
 
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French_guy said:
Is Krale the best place to order such rifles? I have to admit I like the look of the HW97KT, but apparently they don't have it.....and yes, much higher than my budget
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Michigander said:
If you are stuck shooting at one of the state ranges, you lose most of the advantages of an airgun. Realistically, you can buy an entire case of .22lr ammo for the cost of an inexpensive airgun and scope. Depending on how much shooting you plan to do, an airgun may not be a good fit for your situation.
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That depends on the 22lr your shooting. I shoot Lapua Center X in matches and it ranges anywhere from $1300-$1400 a case.
 
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I have never owned a HW rifle, but from what just about everyone that owns them says they are fine rifles. I do have a TX200 and it's a fine rifle, and yes it was expensive. I considered a HW97 but ordered the AA instead and have no regrets. At this point I don't see the need for me to try a 97, at best I think it would be a lateral move.

For me 50 yards outdoors with an air rifle is a challenge that I toughly enjoy, add some wind and things really liven up. As far as the muzzle on the 200 being heavy, I prefer mine a little heavy on the muzzle. IMO it helps the rifle settle when shooting offhand.
 
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If you're a bit open to a PCP in that price range consider a Benji Discovery in either 177 or 22. About $250-$300 and get a cheap Chinese hand pump from Amazon for another $50-$60.. The Disco operates at only 2,000 PSI fill pressure which is easy pumping, you'll probably find out you don't need a tank for it.\. My M-Rod in 22 is a bugger pumping by hand up 3,000 PSI but up to 2,000 is piece of cake, Gets real old quickly above 2,500. I Use a tank now.
 
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im a big fan of my diana stormrider in .177 .. at just over 200$ it sizzles 7.9s out at exactly the advertized 1050fps .. makes it flat shooting to 50y and accuracy can easily hit a chicken egg at that distance with minimal cleanup and polishing of parts and theyre super simple to work on .. easily handpumped .. honestly id say the next step up is like a marauder or cayden and now your pushing 6 bills for a 'very' conservative gain .. springers, well, lets just not and say we did lol, its a niche thing imo, super touchy on everything to be consistent but .. they are simple and you just coc and shoot ...
 
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To follow up on what Michigander said, distance and the type of "target shooting" you do are things to think about.

Formal airgun target shooting is done at 10 meters, not 25 or 50 yards. The best target airguns are typically rather low powered, around 600 FPS, because .177 pellets are stable and very accurate at that speed. If you want the very best for practicing shooting small groups in paper, a dedicated recoilless target rifle (something like a good used FWB 300S), fired at a proper airgun target at 10 meters, is the ticket. The HW 30 (R7) is a good alternative in a simpler, lighter, recoiling format.

And those 600 FPS guns can usually stretch out to 25 yards just fine. But if you want to continue shooting at 50 yards, then you do need more power. Something like the HW 77 would be great.

Also, what kind of sights will you be using? The higher-powered springers typically have stocks configured for the relatively high sight line of a scope. If you will be using typical target aperture sights then that's another thing to consider.

My current offhand paper-punching fave, a Weihrauch HW 55 with Anschutz diopter sight.
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No experience with the HW 30 or 50. I have a 97kt and a 77, the 77 set up with double diopter sights for target shooting and is very good. Right now I am playing with a new Feinwerkbau Sport and am enjoying it. Even with the factory leaf sight I am getting ragged one hole groups at about 15 yards. I scoped it for one day to see what it would do and was amazed at the accuracy, but it's just too much fun with the factor sights which are second to none.

If I want pure accuracy I pull out my old FWB 300s
 
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Order an HW30S from Krale. A little over budget at $300 shipped BUT it does very well out to 50yds and will give you a very fun challenge on windy days. If you can up your budget again another $50, the HW50S is a nice step up. The HW97K is basically the best of the best but it blows your budget completely out of the water. Highly recommend one though.

Everything else in that sub $250 category is going to be hit or miss. It may work well, it may not. You very likely won't be satisfied with the consistency you get from them though.

I agree with this post totally . I shoot .22 LR benchrest and a warning it takes a good while to master a springer rifle but when you do it is better than the same accomplishment a LR gives to you . ( Anschutz custom lab built .22LR ) If you are expecting this kind of results go with TX200 or HW 77 both over your stated $$
 
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Because you asked about HW97 vs. TX200, since you are budget conscious right now, if you decide to stretch that budget to cover either of the above guns consider that an HW77 (as someone else suggested) comes with open sights so you do not need to buy a scope and mount right away like you'll have to with the TX or 97.

I also find it harder to get a pellet loaded in a TX than a 97.
 
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