Talon ss vs condor ss

[Josh7388]

I'm looking at the air force talon ss and the air force condor ss in .22.

Is the condor that much of a better rifle than the talon?

I would be using this for squirrel/small game(no shots over 75 yds) hunting and target shooting.

Would it be worth to get the condor over the talon? I like the fact the talon is shorter making it more packable

 

[PrettyPetty]

I would get the talon bc you can convert a talon to a condor (ish) but not vice versa

 

[Senor Ramon]

I'm looking at the air force talon ss and the air force condor ss in .22.

Is the condor that much of a better rifle than the talon?

I would be using this for squirrel/small game(no shots over 75 yds) hunting and target shooting.

Would it be worth to get the condor over the talon? I like the fact the talon is shorter making it more packable

I own the Talon SS. Originally in .25 with a 12" barrel, I hated it's low velocity shot strings with JSB 25 grain (~ 65- FPS) so I converted it to a Talondor .22 with a 24" barrel. Now I am seeing 940 FPS with JSB 14.35 grains, and great accuracy out to 50 yards. I still need to add the condor valve.

If I were to do it all over again I would buy the Condor SS. The power is awesome. You can always turn down the power with a shorter barrel, lower the power wheel setting, or add a regulator. But if you need the extra FPS you can tap into it.

 

[Rob_in_NC]

I've owned multiple AF guns over the years. The best compromise seems to be a Talon with the 18 inch barrel. Can throw a mod on it if you want. Either way, you can always swap back and forth. Get another bottle with a high flow valve and throw in the extra hammer weight and you have a Condor. Or Get a Condor to start with and get the valve stem with the limiters if you want to drop down in power significantly. Personally, I find that when I get a gun 'set' I leave it and I would imagine most do the same with these guns... so for what you are describing, small game inside of 75 yards, Talon with 18 inch barrel and throw a mod on it if you need quiet... done.

 

[davecole]

I’ve had them all; .177 to .25. 12” barrels to 24”. Talons and Condors both.
As Rob said, the ideal package is a talon with the 18” barrel. It will make for a much easier easy tune getting 15.89/18.1 up to 900fps and still getting plenty of shots with a really nice SD/ES. And the LW AF barrels prefer the JSB pellets.
A Condor valve is more ideal for the heavier .25 pellets. Yes, you can shoot the 15-18g with the Condor valve but you will not be efficient and just be wasting air.

 

[Tricci1009]

I have the talon P in .25 looking to sell for something bigger.

 

[MrP]

I added an 18” barrel to my .25 talon p and agree it’s a good setup. Voids warranty I guess…?

The talon P has a high flow condor type valve on the little bottle it comes with (all (?) of the other talon models have a less powerful valve than the talon P). Threads on the little bottle are different so you can’t put the TalonP valve on a condor tank fyi

 

[RM.510bigbore]

I sure hope Airforce would not void your warranty for a factory barrel bought from them in the first place. If they void your warranty. That is BS. Not a true warranty...