Taipan Veteran Standard or Long in .22

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Hi guys,

After weeks or research, I'm leaning towards getting a Taipan Veteran as my first high end gun. Now I can't decide between the standard or long version. Both needs to have CZ barrels and would like to stick to .22 cal as my other guns also uses .22 Cal. What the long version can do that the standard can't and vice versa. I'm a paper target and silhouette shooter, would like the gun to shoot in urban backyard at 20 yards and 50-100 yards when I go out in the mountains.

It appears the long version is cheaper on Utah Airguns, why is that? Is it because it's not as popular? I'm not sure if that's for .22 or .25. I just emailed them and hope to get a response from them sometime this week. I'm also open to shop from other resellers.

Also, whats a good scope for the gun? I want a scope that goes up to 20+ magnification in SFP and Illuminated Recital. My budget for the scope is in the $500 range.
 
I have a Standard .22, and it would satisfy your needs. I would choose the standard based on your uses. The Standard is a bit quieter for yard use, but still plenty powerful. These are heavy guns, and the Long would be heavier. Mine has the LW barrel, and I would not trade it for a CZ barrel. Both companies make very good barrels, and not many bad ones. Mine is proven good, and I could not expect more. My advice, don't pass up a rifle based on it having a Lothar Walther barrel.
 
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Mike, I should have added something. I don't know your air rifle experience, either conventional or bull pup. But, most folks find the bull pup platform more difficult to shoot well. I love my Veteran, but it's harder to shoot than my full length rifles. That said, the Vet has a very good trigger, which aids considerably in shooting it well.
 
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My air rifle experience is limited, I started off with a springer in Diana 34. Had that gun for about 20 years and never ventured out beyond that.

Just got marauder pistol as my first pcp and fitted with an AR stock. Would that be a comparable feel to bullpup? That set up seems similar to a bullpup since the bore and the buttstock is in line with each other. Whichever is the case, I know I want a bullpup as my next airgun.
 
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I have a 25 cal standard veteran and its very accurate wuht pellets out to 100 yds. I got a power plenum and can easily get over 50 ft pounds for hunting (mostly ( iquanas) The trigger is great the gun is quite heavy with bipod and scope and no light weight stock is available. This should not be a problem if your mostly shooting form a bench but would be problematic for me to carry on a long hunt. The Butt is not adjustable and the cheek riser isn't either This does present problems at time in getting a good view through the scope without hiking up the butt too high for comfort. SO if your a serious target shooter, I would try onr out to see if it fits before buying.
 
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Looks like I will be looking into Standard more. How many shots per fill for .22? I would think the long gets more shots. I am thinking of detuning to around 820-880 feet per second for 14-16 grain pellet as my research shows pellets are designed to go with that speed. I don't hunt so ft pounds of energy is not my primary concern. 

I do bench shooting about 60 percent of the time, the rest is just off hand or 6 position plinking at various distance from 50 to 100 yards. 
 
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Sounds like the standard may be your thing. I have the Veteran long in 22cal with a power plenum installed and a Huma regulator. It can max out at 1034fps with 18.1 grain JSB or 920fps with a 25.39 JSB on my chronograph. 880fps with a JSB 15.89 would get a 100 shots. I think mine is getting 90+ at 900fps with a18.1 grain JSB, which means its pushing a 15.89 around 940-950. I think I saw a video where the standard 22cal got 50 good shots at 945fps with the 18.1 grain JSB. 

Look up Shooter 1721 on Youtube and he has a video on the Taipan Veteran standard 22cal. 
 
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I have been interested in buying a BullPup for a few years. I went back and forth on which one. I bought a 22 Taipan Standard. I put a Sightron 6-24 on it with Burris High Z rings. (Thats what I had available) I am shooting 18.3 JSB’s at 911 FPS sighted in @ 40 yards. I was pleasantly surprised with the accuracy of this set up. I will include a target shot at 50 yards. The targets on the left are with the JSB heavy 10 shots groups and targets on the right were the lighter exacts and redesign’s. The right targets didn't do great with this set up. Oh and it was a pretty breezy day. I have shot better groups but these are real conditions. I never expected to be able to shoot this gun offhand so well. I shoot a couple mags at 55 yards everyday and I am almost always shooting this better than my Regal or Wolverine. I would have argued with anyone on that! It is heavy but since its compact it is really acceptable weight. It dosn't feel as heavy as it is to me. I also have put sling studs and use a two point sling. I fill close to 250 depending on my bottle and get 55+ shots. Trigger, mine isn’t as good as I hear others say. It’s a little long and dosn’t compare with my Daystate’s but I hav not tried adjusting it yet.If I only had one gun it would be the Taipan. Noise, the first shots I thought it was louder than I expected. I was shooting out of my steel building. After shooting a couple tins of pellets and shooting it with a phone app Db. Meter it isn’t louder than my Wolverine with a Odb on it. There is a metallic ping next to your ear that makes you think its louder than it is. But from ten yards away its comparable with the Wolverine.. I can’t think what else to tell about it but any questions I will try to answer them. 








 
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Cool, nice groups. Looks like I will be getting standard version. A few more questions and hope you guys can help answer. 

I see people adding "power plenum", what exactly does that do and if that's an aftermarket part? I figured it adds more power but does it take away the shot count. 

I also people adding Huma regulators, what's wrong with the stock one? How does a regulator work and I see people adjusting that also. Can the stock one that comes with the gun be adjusted?
 
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Mike, regarding the regulator, the Taipan reg, IMO is one of the best. Unless I happened to get a bad one, I would not consider swapping it for a Huma. Similar to the rest of the rifle, it is of robust construction, and mine is one of the most consistent I have ever used. 

There is a comment above regarding disappointment in the trigger. I can almost guarantee that is an adjustment issue, as this is a very good trigger. It is not a true two-stage trigger, but like many triggers, it is designed to give a two-stage feel, and if properly adjusted, the release quality is truly excellent. Since it does not have actual first and second stage sears, it cannot offer the safety margin of a real two-stage. So if you adjust it for a very light release, caution is advised. Mine is adjusted at 6 ounces, with no creep. It feels excellent, but I would not hunt, or move around with it cocked. But since it has an absolutely fool-proof anti-double load feature, just decock until ready to shoot. 

Lastly, not to beat a dead horse, but don't be hesitant about a LW barrel, they are excellent barrels, as are the CZ. Good luck with your purchase, you will be pleased.
 
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I have the Taipan VL .25.

LW barrels are excellent and the hype about CZ vs. LW is just that and not a soul on any forum have ever proven otherwise.

If you are shooting mostly bench then why be concerned about length and weight, it makes no sense.

The comment about the trigger is probably the result of someone failing to understand the trigger's operation and making a mistake with one of the SEVEN adjustment screws for it. I have NEVER changed the trigger settings from the way Tony at Talon Tunes sent it to me.

Get the LOOOOOONG unless you are shooting out of your car!!!!!!!!
 
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I've owned both I prefer the standard because of length & weight, I shoot mine at slower speeds for increased shot count, I get around 80 shots/fill @ 725 fps using JSB 18's, one turn of the HSA gets 900fps, with more or less available, in a nut shell, you will be getting as good of an air rifle as there is...my favorite by a wide margin...I would say don't sweat the barrel type, don't sweat the regulator, don't sweat the trigger (it may or may not need to be tweaked after break in) get the after market HSA, and understand these are heavy solid guns, than just shoot it and you develop a bond and enjoy it as much as we do!
 
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I haven’t adjusted my trigger yet, I am sure it will adjust to my liking. I have had other items that were a priority to me. It's very usable as it is but I wanted to tell you exactly how mine arrived New from Talon Tunes. I could have shown some 3 shot groups that I shot from 10 - 50 yards the day I sighted in that some may doubt they were real. Sometimes I think I don't explain well. I am very pleased with the Taipan. After taking it out of the box I gave the barrel a good cleaning. Then shot it, and shot it. And now I am going out to shoot it some more. 


 
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